3040_3744@uwovax.uwo.ca (11/23/90)
I am advising a friend on printers for a word processing system. I have seen the HP Deskjet 500 and think it would fit the bill. However, I have only seen it in stores and have no idea about its long-term behavior. Does the print quality degrade at all over time? Also since my friend will be doing technical word processing (Word 5.0 or WordPerfect 5.1) how well does the printer support greek characters, how much will it cost to support greek, and how well do these word processors support the printer? Thanks in advance Neil
RFM@psuvm.psu.edu (11/23/90)
I'm thinking about buying a HP DeskJet 500 myself. I've talked to the WordPerfect folks, and they have a printer driver for it (is there any printer out there they don't support????). What I don't understand is the font arrangement for it. Courier 10cpi comes built in, and it comes with a CG Times 12-pt, but I think this is a proportional font. If it works like CG Times on a HP LJ II, qou can only line up columns of numbers by tabbing them -- a bummer for me, sometimes. Anyway, the DJ500 received an "Editor's Choice" in the PC Mag annual printer review edition (Nov 13 issue). It comes with a 3-year warranty. If I buy, I'll probably get a Prestige Elite font cartridge to go along.
zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) (11/23/90)
How much is it? If under $1000 it's worth considering.
wwtaroli@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bill Taroli) (11/23/90)
In article <7844.274bd854@uwovax.uwo.ca> 3040_3744@uwovax.uwo.ca writes: >Does the print quality degrade at all over time? Well, only when you run out of ink. You see, each time you replace the ink cartridge you're also replacing the print head. Kinda wierd, but that's the way it works. I've been using my DeskWriter for 4 months now (only had to change the ink once with moderate level of printing) and have experienced absoluttely no problems. -- ******************************************************************************* * Bill Taroli (WWTAROLI@RODAN.acs.syr.edu) | "You can and must understand * * Syracuse University, Syracuse NY | computers NOW!" -- Ted Nelson * *******************************************************************************
amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) (11/24/90)
In article <11546@j.cc.purdue.edu> zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) >How much is it? If under $1000 it's worth considering. I don't bother considering it... The HP LaserJet IIP with the 'optional' paper tray & cartridge is under $ 1000. As I recall the 500 DeskJet is available much closer to about $ 500. (For the price difference, I consider the IIp the ONLY choice... in that price range...) al -- Al. Michielsen, Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering, Syracuse University InterNet: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu amichiel@sunrise.acs.syr.edu Bitnet: AMICHIEL@SUNRISE
jwarren@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John Warren) (11/24/90)
In article <1990Nov23.221728.16389@rodan.acs.syr.edu> amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) writes: >In article <11546@j.cc.purdue.edu> zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) >>How much is it? If under $1000 it's worth considering. > > I don't bother considering it... The HP LaserJet IIP with the 'optional' >paper tray & cartridge is under $ 1000. > As I recall the 500 DeskJet is available much closer to about $ 500. >(For the price difference, I consider the IIp the ONLY choice... in that >price range...) >-- >Al. Michielsen, Mechanical & Aerospace Engineering, Syracuse University > InterNet: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu amichiel@sunrise.acs.syr.edu > Bitnet: AMICHIEL@SUNRISE However, with the DeskJet 500 you can print a full page of graphics without the memory constraints of a LaserJet. I've seen the ouput of the printer and it is really great! Plus, for those of you familiar with the older DeskJets, HP has developed a new ink that is not water soluble (eliminating all those annoying smudges) and it's really BLACK. -John JWARREN@iusilver.ucs.indiana.edu (I have absolutely no affiliation with HP)
dey@brahms.udel.edu (Noel Dean Dey) (11/24/90)
In article <1990Nov23.221728.16389@rodan.acs.syr.edu> amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) writes: >In article <11546@j.cc.purdue.edu> zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) >>How much is it? If under $1000 it's worth considering. If you check your universities volume purchase agreements, or whomever sells computers on campus, you may find prices UNDER $400 for the DJ 500. I couldn't resist it and am thrilled by the quality I get using my Amiga.
goes@vx.acs.umn.edu (11/25/90)
In article <16114@brahms.udel.edu>, dey@brahms.udel.edu (Noel Dean Dey) writes... >In article <1990Nov23.221728.16389@rodan.acs.syr.edu> amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) writes: >>In article <11546@j.cc.purdue.edu> zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) >>>How much is it? If under $1000 it's worth considering. > >If you check your universities volume purchase agreements, or whomever >sells computers on campus, you may find prices UNDER $400 for the >DJ 500. I couldn't resist it and am thrilled by the quality I get >using my Amiga. I paid about $350 for mine on university purchase order. That's a hell of a deal. Sure, you can get a IIP for $1000, plus the cost to upgrade memory you can do full page graphics. I think the DJ500 is a bold move by HP into the lower-end market, and will make serious inroads into the price range normally occupied by dot-matrix only. I'm VERY pleased with it. BTW, I called Microsoft to get an updated MS Word .PRD file for the DJ500. The rep said they didn't have one, and had no plans to support it. Stupid Answer. More evidence that Microsoft is abandoning vanilla DOS products for Windows apps (INMO). _______________________________________________________________________________ Jim Goes |BITNET: GOES@UMNACVX or JGOES@UMINN1 Health Services Administration |InterNet: GOES@VX.ACS.UMN.EDU School of Public Health |UUCP: {fav backbone}!uxacs!vxacs!goes University of Minnesota |MaBell: (612) 624-3118
sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) (11/25/90)
For the $1000 range price being mentioned in this thread, you can get a Laserjet II (not III or IIP) at clearance for only a little more money ($1000 to $1100) at many stores and mail-order vendors and get twice the speed of a IIP and perhaps cheaper upgrades (many cartridges are now available a clearance prices).
shwake@raysnec.UUCP (Ray Shwake) (11/26/90)
goes@vx.acs.umn.edu writes: >BTW, I called Microsoft to get an updated MS Word .PRD file for the >DJ500. The rep said they didn't have one, and had no plans to support >it. Stupid Answer. More evidence that Microsoft is abandoning vanilla >DOS products for Windows apps (INMO). Don't be so impulsive in lambasting a generally responsive company on the basis of a "stupid answer" offered by one of its representatives. Given that the DJ 500 is a popular successor to a widely used printer, to the extent that it requires an alternative .PRD to that used by the Deskjet to take advantage of its additional functionality, I have no doubt Microsoft will release one for its DOS products as well as its Windows products.
akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) (11/27/90)
In article <11546@j.cc.purdue.edu> zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) writes: >How much is it? If under $1000 it's worth considering. I've seen quotes in PC Week for $496... kartik -- Anant Kartik Mithal akm@cs.uoregon.edu Network Manager, (503)346-4408 (msgs) Department of Computer Science, (503)346-4156 (direct) University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1202