young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young) (12/13/90)
I just acquired a full height hard drive when we closed one of our offices and was attempting to install it on my XT clone. The problem is that the drive bay configuration does not match the drive too well, it only fits upside down. It would fit correctly if the drive didn't have these little tabs that were used to hold it in the machine it used to be in, I'm not really interested in doing surgery on the drive. Would it be a problem to intall is upside down? I found it upside down in a box so it's been that way for a while. Thanks in advance, Michael Young ...!apple!netcom!young
millernw@clutx.clarkson.edu (Neal Miller,,,) (12/13/90)
From article <18653@netcom.UUCP>, by young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young): > I just acquired a full height hard drive when we closed one of our > offices and was attempting to install it on my XT clone. The problem > is that the drive bay configuration does not match the drive too well, > it only fits upside down. It would fit correctly if the drive didn't > have these little tabs that were used to hold it in the machine it > used to be in, I'm not really interested in doing surgery on the drive. > Would it be a problem to intall is upside down? I found it upside > down in a box so it's been that way for a while. > > Thanks in advance, > > Michael Young Last year, I somehow managed to mount my Seagate 251-1 upside down. I have no idea how, but I've never had much of any problem with the drive. Granted, I keep my CPU on its side, but I've never had any problems with it in any orientation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Neal Miller | "Why not go mad?" | millernw@clutx.clarkson.edu Clarkson University | - Ford Prefect | millernw@clutx.bitnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (12/13/90)
In article <18653@netcom.UUCP> young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young) writes: | I just acquired a full height hard drive when we closed one of our | offices and was attempting to install it on my XT clone. The problem | is that the drive bay configuration does not match the drive too well, | it only fits upside down. It would fit correctly if the drive didn't | have these little tabs that were used to hold it in the machine it | used to be in, I'm not really interested in doing surgery on the drive. | Would it be a problem to intall is upside down? I found it upside | down in a box so it's been that way for a while. In general drive are designed to be *operated* flat, or on either side. They are not designed to operate upside down or on their front or back. The effects of doing this will vary from vendor to vendor, but I wouldn't unless I was willing to write off the drive if the experiment failed. If the tabs are just for mechanical mounting I would be a lot more willing to remove them than run the drive upside down. Also, if possible bend them back and forth until they break, rather than cutting or filing, which create little bits of metal. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
russell@spdcc.COM (Tim Russell) (12/13/90)
From article <18653@netcom.UUCP>, by young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young): > Would it be a problem to intall is upside down? I found it upside > down in a box so it's been that way for a while. I really wouldn't see any reason why not, but you might want to call the drive manufacturer just to make sure. One good piece of advice, though, just for safety's sake, it might be advisable to low-level format the drive in its upside-down position. I know that's a good idea when you place a CPU vert- ically that has been horizontal. -- ____ "Mankind must without a doubt be the most conceited race \TR/ Tim Russell in the universe, for who else believes that God has \/ Omaha NE nothing better to do than sit around all day and help russell@spdcc.com him out of tight spots?" -- Alan Dean Foster
peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu) (12/13/90)
In article <18653@netcom.UUCP> young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young) writes: >Would it be a problem to intall is upside down? I found it upside >down in a box so it's been that way for a while. According to the docs that came with my HD, you should never install a HD upside down. On it's side or bottom is fine, just not upside down. I suggest you find some other way to install it if possible ... >Michael Young Pedro Quien? peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Peter Wu
cy5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Conway Yee) (12/14/90)
In article <1990Dec13.033658.7360@grape.ecs.clarkson.edu> millernw@clutx.clarkson.edu writes: >From article <18653@netcom.UUCP>, by young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young): >> I just acquired a full height hard drive when we closed one of our >> offices and was attempting to install it on my XT clone. The problem >> is that the drive bay configuration does not match the drive too well, >> it only fits upside down. It would fit correctly if the drive didn't >> have these little tabs that were used to hold it in the machine it >> used to be in, I'm not really interested in doing surgery on the drive. >> Would it be a problem to intall is upside down? I found it upside >> down in a box so it's been that way for a while. > > Last year, I somehow managed to mount my Seagate 251-1 upside down. >I have no idea how, but I've never had much of any problem with the drive. >Granted, I keep my CPU on its side, but I've never had any problems with it >in any orientation. Thus, the net effect is that the drive is mounted on its side. To Michael Young, the original poster, what exactly is it that is preventing you from mounting the drive right side up? If it is the rails, then just remount them in the proper holes. Many mounting rails come with several sets of screw holes. If you screw them onto the drive using the wrong ones, then it will not go into the drive bay properly. In thinking about the shape of the drive, I can not think of anything else that would non-symmetrically stick out to prevent proper fit into the drive bay. Conway Yee, N2JWQ yee@ming.mipg.upenn.edu (preferred) 231 S. Melville St. cy5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (forwarded to above) Philadelphia, Pa 19139 yee@bnlx26.nsls.bnl.gov (rarely checked) (215) 386-1312
noesis@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (60276000) (12/14/90)
according to the Seagate docs, as long as the drive is a multiple of 90 degrees, no problem (either side, top or bottom). they do say NEVER install it at another angle (tollerance +/- 3 degrees)
alz@tc.fluke.COM (Al Weiss) (12/20/90)
In article <1990Dec13.084929.6794@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> peter@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Wu) writes: >In article <18653@netcom.UUCP> young@netcom.UUCP (Michael Young) writes: > >According to the docs that came with my HD, you should never install a >HD upside down. On it's side or bottom is fine, just not upside down. >I suggest you find some other way to install it if possible ... It depends upon upon the manufacturer AND model. Check the specifications or call the manufacturer to find out about the specific model in question. Don't go by heresay. Some specifically state that any orientation is ok, others limit it. The computers that I help oversee the manufacturing of have the HDs upside down. Seagate never even got a foot in the door because of their limitations (although maybe some of their newly designed models do better now). Al -- Al Weiss alz@tc.fluke.com 206-356-5252 John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc. MS-269 PO Box 9090 Everett, WA 98206-9090 USA