jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL (John B. Jones) (12/27/90)
I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, (better yet, his mouse) overwrite or insert, and quickly get out. Has anyone seen such a beast? I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or one of those guys published source a long time ago for a program called VSE which was a Very Small Editor. It had all the basic functions and was rediculously small. Please don't mention Edlin. I said he was my friend. :-) I have ftp ability. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. john jones jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil
goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca (12/27/90)
In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes: >I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of >mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, >Please don't mention Edlin. I said he was my friend. :-) my favorite is Qedit. i think the latest version is 2.08 although i am not sure. it really works beautifully. it is shareware although i don't know where you can get it sameer goyal goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (12/27/90)
In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.NOSC.MIL (John B. Jones) writes:
Has anyone seen such a beast? I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or
one of those guys published source a long time ago for a program called
VSE which was a Very Small Editor. It had all the basic functions and
was rediculously small.
Fetch grape.ecs.clarkson.edu:pub/msdos/pcmag/vol7n19.zip, and extract TED.*
Fetch grape.ecs.clarkson.edu:pub/msdos/pcmag/index.zip for an index of pcmag.
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I joined the League for Programming Freedom, and I hope you'll join too.danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik) (12/27/90)
In article <1990Dec26.212405.871@ccu.umanitoba.ca> goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes: >In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes: >>I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of >>mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, >>Please don't mention Edlin. I said he was my friend. :-) > >my favorite is Qedit. i think the latest version is 2.08 although i >am not sure. it really works beautifully. it is shareware although >i don't know where you can get it The latest version of QEDIT is 2.1, and it is available on simtel and wuarchive.wustl.edu. It's my favorite, too.
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (12/27/90)
In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes: >I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of >mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, >(better yet, his mouse) overwrite or insert, and quickly get out. >Has anyone seen such a beast? I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or >one of those guys published source a long time ago for a program called >VSE which was a Very Small Editor. It had all the basic functions and >was rediculously small. At uwasa.fi archives available by anonymous ftp: -rw-r--r-- 2 ts 24202 Jan 8 1989 /pc/pd2/ted.zip -rw-r--r-- 2 ts 20415 Nov 12 1988 /pc/pd2/tedplus.zip -rw-r--r-- 2 ts 128331 Mar 3 1990 /pc/pd2/qedit21.zip ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
lwb@pensoft.UUCP (Lance Bledsoe) (12/27/90)
In article <1990Dec26.212405.871@ccu.umanitoba.ca> goyal@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes: >In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes: >>I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of >>mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen, >>Please don't mention Edlin. I said he was my friend. :-) The editor I use is Multi-Edit from American Cybernetics. It the best editor I've ever use on any computer. BUT, it's very large and has lots of macro files etc. If I want a small very good editor to carry around on a floppy for hacking on other peoples systems, I use SEE from C-WARE Corp. SEE is a very small (the .exe is 38k) but extreamly powerful editor that is easy to use. As you can tell from the name, it lends itself to C programming. good luck... -- Lance Bledsoe Off: (512) 343-1111 Pencom Software, Inc. Fax (512) 343-9650 8716 Loop 360 N. Suite 300 UUCP: cs.utexas.edu!pensoft!lwb Austin, Texas 78759 UUNET: uunet!uudell!pensoft!lwb
kabra437@pallas.athenanet.com (Ken Abrams) (12/28/90)
My personal favorite is TED. I believe it is from PC mag. It is a screen oriented file editor, is less than 4K and displays all (about 8) of the available functions across the bottom of the screen. Thus, it is about 99% functional with no instructions at all. I know that ftp seems to be a favorite method of aquiring files (and rightfully so for Unix stuff) but if you do a lot of work with PCs, you really should try to find yourself a good local BBS. All the above in IMHO only. No flames, please. -- ======================================================== Ken Abrams uunet!pallas!kabra437 Illinois Bell kabra437@athenanet.com Springfield (voice) 217-753-7965
silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver) (12/28/90)
In article <1683@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
$I'm looking for a small, simple ascii editor which will let a friend of
$mine get into his ascii files, use cursor keys to get around on the screen,
$(better yet, his mouse) overwrite or insert, and quickly get out.
$Has anyone seen such a beast? I've heard a rumor that PC Magazine or
PC Magazine has a program called TED which is a very simple, very small
(< 3K) editor. I've heard that they have a version out which is newer than
the one I have, so there may be features in addition to these:
- cut/paste
- insert/overwrite
- support for screen sizes other than 80x25 (I've used it on a 132x44)
- limited to <64K files
I have TED 1.0, dated 1988, and it's 2984 bytes long. Check the latest
PC Magazine to see what the latest version of TED is; specifically, I've
heard that there is a newer one that allows searches.
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Sounds like you need TED from PC Mag, which is now in its second version. TED2.COM is all of 4106 bytes and works like a charm. There's also CSE, a bit larger (13220) but also a lot more pwerful. You can download these from the simtel20 archives. Norman Miller
rasmus@contact.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) (01/01/91)
In <1990Dec27.231138.10083@mstr.hgc.edu> nmiller@sa4.hgc.edu (norman miller) writes: >Sounds like you need TED from PC Mag, which is now in its >second version. TED2.COM is all of 4106 bytes and works >like a charm. >There's also CSE, a bit larger (13220) but also a lot more pwerful. My personal favourite is still Qedit. It has been getting bigger and bigger, but it is still not too big in my opinion, and it is powerful!
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (01/02/91)
In article <1991Jan1.093027.11480@contact.uucp> rasmus@contact.uucp (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes: > >My personal favourite is still Qedit. It has been getting bigger and >bigger, but it is still not too big in my opinion, and it is powerful! Not that it really matters, but your statement about QEdit getting bigger and bigger is not true. The current size is 46Kb, and it was up to 48Kb in between, and a clear growth trend has never been a feature of QEdit releases. ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
news@j.cc.purdue.edu (Usenet news) (01/03/91)
a good idea to have a powerful full screen editor (not edlin!) as part of DOS standard and put into ROM. From: zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) Path: brazil.psych.purdue.edu!zhou
silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver) (01/04/91)
In article <11644@j.cc.purdue.edu> zhou@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Albert Zhou) writes everything but the first line of his article:
$a good idea to have a powerful full screen editor (not edlin!) as part of
$DOS standard and put into ROM.
While there are ROMable flavours of DOS around (e.g. DR-DOS), DOS in
general is not found in ROM.
If I understand your article, you're suggesting that a full screen editor
should be loaded into memory with the kernel at boot time. This is basically
a waste of address space for the vast majority of DOS users. Most users use
DOS as a program to load in their favourite applications - word processors,
spreadsheets, databases, etc. If they want to edit something, it's far
more likely to be a letter in their word processor than a batch file or
C program, and they'll want and need their word processor to do it.
If, on the other hand, you're suggesting that a decent editor should be
included on the DOS distribution diskettes, you're suggesting something
that has been suggested thousands (millions?) of times before, and Microsoft
claims to have listened. Last I heard, which was a while ago, DOS 5.0 was
supposed to include a screen editor. Once they get around to releasing it,
we'll see just what they've come up with.
Even if they do, though, it won't really affect me. I do my DOS
programming on my machine, which I can equip with whatever editors suit
my needs. For user support, I'll still have to carry around two diskettes
(5.25", 3.5") with TED and a vi clone, since the majority of PCs will be
running DOS 3.x or 4.x for quite some time.
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