and (04/11/83)
Many of the 'ei' exceptions are included in the sentence: The weird financier seizes neither leisure nor _______. I have never found another exception to fill in the blank. Hope this helps. Richard
debray (04/12/83)
Another couple of "-ei-" exceptions that immediately come to mind, of course, are "reign" and "rein". Saumya K Debray SUNY at Stony Brook ... allegra!sbcs!debray
halle1 (04/12/83)
Reign and rein are not exceptions. The complete jingle is: "I before e except after c, unless pronounced A as in neighbor and weigh."
wdr (04/12/83)
Neither leisured foreigner seized their weird heights. all others rhyme with neighbor and weigh. Bill
dragon (04/12/83)
Sorry, but those aren't exceptions. The rule is "i before e, except after c, and sounding as a as in neighbor and weigh." Both you're examples vowel sound is a long a, so they conform to the rules. Dragon
ddyment (04/13/83)
The "exceptions" to the "ie" rules suggested by sbcs!debray are not really exceptions. The *complete* rule, which many don't seem to know, is I before E except after C, or when sounded like A as in neighbour or weigh. There are, of course, still exceptions to *this* rule! ... Doug Dyment (watmath!ddyment)
nickles (04/14/83)
So what makes an exception? Here are some: height (or heist), ei sounds like "I" heir, ei sounds like "ai" (as opposed to a in bake) heifer, ei sounds like short e, as in less But some strange ones that sound like "e" as in meet. leister, meikle, teiid, teil, weiner, weir, zein Jack Nickles ... ihnp4!ihlpf!nickles
jlw (04/14/83)
Try heifer. Joe Wood ariel!jlw
pmontgom (04/15/83)
Reply-To: pmontgom@sdcrdcf.uucp (Peter Montgomery) Organization: System Development Corporation--a Burroughs Company References: <qubix.184> <ariel.297> Another exception is "ancient". Peter Montgomery ...!sdcsvax!sdccsu3!sdcrdcf!pmontgom
bernie (04/26/83)
It occurs to me that one could use a good editor and a large dictionary to find *lots* of exceptions to the "i before e" rules; the expression is just ^[^c]*ei ...I'd do it myself, but I'm really not that curious... --Bernie Roehl ...decvax!watmath!watarts!bernie