[comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware] Anybody heard of this 486/25?

kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) (01/23/91)

    Just got a flyer from PC House, and one of the items they have is a
"80 data" 486/25 motherboard.  With 4MB/8K cache it's $1490, and $190
for another 1208K of cache.  They also want $49.50 for 1MB SIPs. 

    Has anyone heard of these folks, or of that motherboard?  Are these
prices reasonable/too good to be true?


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vandevek@fergvax.unl.edu (James M. VandeVegt) (01/24/91)

In article <1991Jan23.023353.16754@demott.com> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) writes:
>    Just got a flyer from PC House, and one of the items they have is a
>"80 data" 486/25 motherboard.  With 4MB/8K cache it's $1490, and $190
>for another 1208K of cache.  They also want $49.50 for 1MB SIPs. 
>    Has anyone heard of these folks, or of that motherboard?  Are these
>prices reasonable/too good to be true?
>Kevin D. Quitt         demott!kdq   kdq@demott.com
>DeMott Electronics Co. 14707 Keswick St.   Van Nuys, CA 91405-1266
>VOICE (818) 988-4975   FAX (818) 997-1190  MODEM (818) 997-4496 PEP last

I haven't and that seems like a hell of a lot of computer for
the money; your statement might be right--too good to be true, I
would be very skeptical and ask a lot of questions.  I assume you meant
to say 128K additional cache.  The price for the SIPs seems reasonable.

| James M. VandeVegt             |  University of Nebraska           |
| vandevek@fergvax.unl.edu       |  Computer Science and Engineering |
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david@kessner.denver.co.us (David Kessner) (01/24/91)

In article <1991Jan24.002823.2005@hoss.unl.edu> vandevek@fergvax.unl.edu (James M. VandeVegt) writes:
>>    Just got a flyer from PC House, and one of the items they have is a
>>"80 data" 486/25 motherboard.  With 4MB/8K cache it's $1490, and $190
>>for another 1208K of cache.  They also want $49.50 for 1MB SIPs. 
>>Kevin D. Quitt         demott!kdq   kdq@demott.com
>
>I haven't and that seems like a hell of a lot of computer for
>the money; your statement might be right--too good to be true, I
>would be very skeptical and ask a lot of questions.  I assume you meant
>to say 128K additional cache.  The price for the SIPs seems reasonable.
>| James M. VandeVegt             |  University of Nebraska           |

I have ran across several 80-Data machines, most of them have been a lot of
trouble.  There was one 386/20 with a 16mhz CPU, another one had the BIOS and
DRAM chips with pins not in the sockets, and I have a 286/10 here that refuses
to boot (something wrong with the DMA).

Out of the hundreds of machines I have delt with this past year, I have found
	5 dead 80-Data's
	1 dead PS/2-70 motherboard
	1 dead Sperry (mitsubisi, or however you spell it)
	1 DOA Top Microsystems 386sx
	and no dead DTK's (and I see more of these than anything else).

Given that track record, I would not buy 80-Data.  I have also not had great
luck with any 386sx's for some reason but I dont know why (I have used about
10 in the past three months).

David Kessner		kessner!david@csn.org

scotte@applix.com (Scott Evernden) (01/25/91)

In article <1991Jan23.023353.16754@demott.com> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) writes:
>
>    Just got a flyer from PC House, and one of the items they have is a
>"80 data" 486/25 motherboard.  With 4MB/8K cache it's $1490, and $190
>for another 1208K of cache.  They also want $49.50 for 1MB SIPs. 

Is the $1000 486 cpu chip included?  Are the SIPs supposed to be for this
board?  It takes SIPPs and not SIMMs?

-scott

kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) (01/26/91)

In article <1112@applix.com> scotte@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) writes:
>In article <1991Jan23.023353.16754@demott.com> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) writes:
>>
>>    Just got a flyer from PC House, and one of the items they have is a
>>"80 data" 486/25 motherboard.  With 4MB/8K cache it's $1490, and $190
>>for another 1208K of cache.  They also want $49.50 for 1MB SIPs. 
>
>Is the $1000 486 cpu chip included?  Are the SIPs supposed to be for this
>board?  It takes SIPPs and not SIMMs?


    Ad says "25 MHz 486 Mother Board / Intel 80486-25 CPU / AMI BIOS w/Set-
up / Self-contained Co-processor & 8KB cache / 4 Memory banks for 8MB SIP /
MB84 with 4MB $1490 (1-3) $1425 (4+) / 128KB Cache Memory Board MB89 $190
(1-3) $175 (4+)".

    I called them, it does include the CPU.  They do not have any available
at this time because they're having trouble getting CPUs.  Hmm.  Maybe
I should have posted to sci.skeptic. 8-{)}


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kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) (01/26/91)

In article <1112@applix.com> scotte@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) writes:
>In article <1991Jan23.023353.16754@demott.com> kdq@demott.com (Kevin D. Quitt) writes:
>>
>>    Just got a flyer from PC House, and one of the items they have is a
>>"80 data" 486/25 motherboard.  With 4MB/8K cache it's $1490, and $190
>>for another 1208K of cache.  They also want $49.50 for 1MB SIPs. 
>
>Is the $1000 486 cpu chip included?  Are the SIPs supposed to be for this
>board?  It takes SIPPs and not SIMMs?

$1000 for a 486?  Why would anyone pay $1000.  Two months ago I paid
$450 for the 486 (B5) to plug into my MB.  Why pay more?  If someone is
charging $1000 for a 486, then someone's making an enormous markup.

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Kaleb Keithley                        kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov

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