[comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware] panasonic vs multisync 3d

am42+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Paul Morris) (02/04/91)

What's the difference between the panasonic vga monitor and the
multisync 3d?  They both display up to 1024x768 (interlaced) w/256
colors.  So why is one so much more expensive than the other.  Isn't the
panasonic also multisyncing?  Thanks.

    Alexander Morris                  "People die, things change...
    Carnegie Mellon                             It's sad."

jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) (02/05/91)

In article <kbf5WBS00WB5Q3RYV6@andrew.cmu.edu> am42+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Paul Morris) writes:
>What's the difference between the panasonic vga monitor and the
>multisync 3d?  They both display up to 1024x768 (interlaced) w/256
>colors.  So why is one so much more expensive than the other.  Isn't the
>panasonic also multisyncing?  Thanks.
>
>    Alexander Morris                  "People die, things change...
>    Carnegie Mellon                             It's sad."

Well, let's see...first off, I have used both monitors and have found that
the NEC is INFINITELY superior.  I the Panasync 1380 and 1391 are both
pretty hideous looking.  Also, using a Tseng Labs ET4000 1MB VGA card we
couldn't get the Panasonic to synchronize with the 800x600 mode.  The NEC
had no trouble.

The Panasonic looks a little washed out, even with brightness cranked and
contrast cranked.  I really don't like them, although others I know
swear by them.  Also note that the NEC, even when interlacing, has almost
no flicker compared to some other interlaced monitors.

Spend the bucks and the NEC.  The Panasonic is disgusting.  IMHO of course.

Brian

berger@atropa (Dire Wolf) (02/08/91)

am42+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Paul Morris) writes:

>What's the difference between the panasonic vga monitor and the
>multisync 3d?  They both display up to 1024x768 (interlaced) w/256
>colors.  So why is one so much more expensive than the other.  Isn't the
>panasonic also multisyncing?  Thanks.
*----
You might ask yourself on a more fundamental level why the Matsushita
(Panasonic's parent company) "ViewPerfect" monitor has the same features
and specs as a Panasync, but costs $ 100 less (it's made in Taiwan, while
the Panasync is made in Japan).  If you're happy with Panasonic or Matsushita
over NEC, it might not be worth the extra money.  
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
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c164-al@juliet.uucp (Joon Song) (02/09/91)

In article <1991Feb7.222709.17328@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Dire Wolf) writes:
>You might ask yourself on a more fundamental level why the Matsushita
>(Panasonic's parent company) "ViewPerfect" monitor has the same features
>and specs as a Panasync, but costs $ 100 less (it's made in Taiwan, while
>the Panasync is made in Japan).  If you're happy with Panasonic or Matsushita
>over NEC, it might not be worth the extra money.  
>--
>	Mike Berger

I've seen the Panasonic 1381 advertised locally for $395.  If the ViewPerfect
monitor costs $100 less than the Panasonic, are you saying that I should be
able to buy a ViewPerfect monitor for $295.

The major difference between the NEC 3D and the Panasonic 1381 is the range
of horizontal frequencies that they can handle.  The NEC 3D is a true
multisync monitor which can handle frequencies between 15kHz and 38kHz.
The Panasonic 1381 is what some people call a dualsync.  Its frequency range
is limited, from 31kHz to 38kHz.

The larger frequency ranges of the NEC 3D allows it to be used with Hercules,
CGA, EGA, and VGA cards.  The Panasonic 1381 can only be used with VGA cards.

The smaller frequency ranges of the Panasonic 1381 is not a disadvantage if you
plan to use the monitor only with a VGA card, since VGA can emulate Hercules,
CGA and EGA.

So, if you are planning to use the monitor only with VGA cards, it's probably
a better idea to buy a Panasonic 1381.

If, however, you would like to be able to use the monitor with other video
card as well as VGA cards, you should buy the NEC 3D.  While the NEC 3D 
does have a slightly better picture than the Panasonic 1381, the difference
in picture quality is probably not worth the $200 difference in price
between the NEC and the Panasonic.

Joon Song
c164-al@bard.berkeley.edu

berger@iboga (Mike Berger) (02/10/91)

c164-al@juliet.uucp (Joon Song) writes:
>I've seen the Panasonic 1381 advertised locally for $395.  If the ViewPerfect
>monitor costs $100 less than the Panasonic, are you saying that I should be
>able to buy a ViewPerfect monitor for $295.

>The major difference between the NEC 3D and the Panasonic 1381 is the range
>of horizontal frequencies that they can handle.  The NEC 3D is a true
>multisync monitor which can handle frequencies between 15kHz and 38kHz.
>The Panasonic 1381 is what some people call a dualsync.  Its frequency range
>is limited, from 31kHz to 38kHz.
*----

I think we're talking about different items.  This is the first posting in
which I've seen a specific model number.  The Panasync monitor I refer to
is virtually identical to the NEC 3D, and the Matsushita equivalent is the
ViewPerfect 3.  The prices I've seen are higher than you quoted.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu

wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) (02/10/91)

In article <1991Feb9.212129.11699@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@iboga (Mike Berger) writes:
>c164-al@juliet.uucp (Joon Song) writes:
>>I've seen the Panasonic 1381 advertised locally for $395.  If the ViewPerfect
>>monitor costs $100 less than the Panasonic, are you saying that I should be
>
>
>I think we're talking about different items.  This is the first posting in

I think he *IS* talking about the same thing.  I bought a C1381 monitor just
last november.  WHen I first looked around I saw them listed for well over
$600.00, but after doing some digging in computer shopper, I found it for
$389.00 from USA Flex.  I never saw an NEC3D priced even nearly as low as this.

My guess is that Joon is just a better shopper than you are Mike :)

Scott

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