testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) (02/13/91)
I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! Is this true, and when why ??? Thanks in advance ! Torsten Sturm tnsturm@faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de tnsturm@faui41.informatik.uni-erlangen.de tnsturm@faui43.informatik.uni-erlangen.de tnsturm@faui80.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
jching@watnow.waterloo.edu (John Y. Ching) (02/14/91)
In article <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) writes: >I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an >embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! >Is this true, and when why ??? > If that was true, it certainly doesn't apply to Canada yet! JC -- John Y. Ching (jching@watnow.waterloo.edu) | "Thought without Learning is Pattern Analysis and Machine Intelligence Group | Useless; Learning without Department of Systems Design Engineering | Thought is Dangerous." University of Waterloo, Canada | -- Confucius
kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) (02/14/91)
In article <1991Feb13.220445.7386@watserv1.waterloo.edu> jching@watnow.waterloo.edu (John Y. Ching) writes: >In article <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) writes: >>I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an >>embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! >>Is this true, and when why ??? >> > >If that was true, it certainly doesn't apply to Canada yet! > That'd be a laugh if they embargoed 386's and not SPARCs? Toshiba is selling 386 laptops, they must be getting them from somewhere. -- Kaleb Keithley kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov As of right now, I'm in charge here now... Alexander Haig. Voodoo Economics, that's what it is, voodoo economics. George Bush
ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) (02/14/91)
From article <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de>, by testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ): > I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an > embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! > Is this true, and when why ??? I have no idea, but it does remind me of those 386 motherboards w/o CPU's...
guy@contact.uucp (Guy Lemieux) (02/15/91)
In <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) writes: >I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an >embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! >Is this true, and when why ??? That's not what I heard. I've heard that Intel's only i386 and i486 chip source is in Tel-Aviv (you know, SCUD-SCUD) !!!!! (BTW Intel prefers them to be called i386 and i486, not 80386 and 80486). >Thanks in advance ! >Torsten Sturm >tnsturm@faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de -- Guy Lemieux ENG SCI University of Toronto guy@contact.uucp 9 T 2 Faculty of Applied Science and Engineering
guy@contact.uucp (Guy Lemieux) (02/15/91)
In <1991Feb13.235723.913@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov> kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) writes: >In article <1991Feb13.220445.7386@watserv1.waterloo.edu> jching@watnow.waterloo.edu (John Y. Ching) writes: >>In article <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) writes: >>>I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an >>>embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! >>>Is this true, and when why ??? >> >>If that was true, it certainly doesn't apply to Canada yet! >> >That'd be a laugh if they embargoed 386's and not SPARCs? Toshiba is >selling 386 laptops, they must be getting them from somewhere. Yeah, they're getting them from Matsushita. And/or themselves. Sun has encouraged the cloning of the SPARC in hopes of getting it as popular as the IBM PC (by flooding the market with clones). >-- >Kaleb Keithley kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov -- Guy Lemieux ENG SCI University of Toronto guy@contact.uucp 9 T 2 Faculty of Applied Science and Engineering
shwake@raysnec.UUCP (Ray Shwake) (02/16/91)
>In <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) writes: >>I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an >>embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! >>Is this true, and when why ??? Quite the contrary. The Commerce Dept. has actually eased restrictions on i386 and comparable Motorola chips to several of the COCOM countries. guy@contact.uucp (Guy Lemieux) writes: >That's not what I heard. I've heard that Intel's only i386 and i486 chip >source is in Tel-Aviv (you know, SCUD-SCUD) !!!!! According to a recent PC Week article, Israel is one of several countries in which the 386 family of chips are produced. (A good bit of design work is also done there.) In the event the plant were hit, Intel has other facilities in the U.S. and Asia that could supply the chips. ----------- uunet!media!ka3ovk!raysnec!shwake shwake@rsxtech
ejy@cbnewsi.att.com (eugene.yurek) (02/16/91)
From article <1991Feb14.163528.10768@contact.uucp>, by guy@contact.uucp (Guy Lemieux): > In <1991Feb13.125307.29232@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> testurm@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm ) writes: > >>I've heard rumours, that the US-Government has layed an >>embargo on the export of 80386-Processors ! >>Is this true, and when why ??? > > That's not what I heard. I've heard that Intel's only i386 and i486 chip > source is in Tel-Aviv (you know, SCUD-SCUD) !!!!! > > (BTW Intel prefers them to be called i386 and i486, not 80386 and 80486). > >>Thanks in advance ! >>Torsten Sturm >>tnsturm@faui09.informatik.uni-erlangen.de > > -- > Guy Lemieux ENG SCI University of Toronto > guy@contact.uucp 9 T 2 Faculty of Applied Science and Engineering A relative of mine is in the computer business and just about 2 days ago to the US Government International Trade Office (or whatever they are oficially called these days), asking about exporting computer hardware. He was told that personal computers and related hardware have been recently declassified (or a word like this) and that all he had to do was ship it. No permits are required for shipments of under $2500.00 value. Above this he has to fill out a single sheet form which is an instant export permit. I believe he said he just has to give this to the shipper (though I could be wrong here). In any event, he doesn't have to wait for any permits or approvals. He was also told that there are only about 8 countries the US still doesn't do business with. Guess who's one of them; yup, you guessed it, IRAQ. The Soviet Union and most Soviet Block Contries are NOT on this list of 8. If you don't believe this, call the government. There is an office like the above in just about every state (some even have more than one). -- Eugene J. Yurek Internet: ejy@honasa.att.com AT&T Bell Laboratories UUCP: ...!att!honasa!ejy Holmdel, NJ Voice: (201) 949-3753
loc@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM (Leigh Clayton) (02/19/91)
One can never be certain about a rumour, since rumours never include their source (by definition). However, I venture to guess that the source of this one is that the US, a few months ago, revised its lists of what can be sold to Soviet-aligned countries, and at that time many kinds of PC's were added to the 'allowed' list, but 386 Pc's were kept on the prohibited list. ----------------------------------------------------------- loc@tmsoft.UUCP uunet!mnetor!tmsoft!loc loc@ipsa.reuter.COM (Leigh Clayton)