[comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware] NEED OPINION ON A GATEWAY 2000 CONFIGURATION

pmisra@desire.wright.edu (Pradeep Misra,354A Fawcett,8733663,) (03/08/91)

I would really apprciate some advice from the PC Gurus on the following
configuration for a 486/33 PC that I am planning on buying from GATEWAT

GATEWAY 2000  33MHz 486 VGA

64 K cache RAM (25 ns)
8 MB RAM (70 ns chips)
1.2 MB 5.25" EPSON floppy drive
1.44 MB 3.5" EPSON floppy drive
300 MB ESDI Hard Drive (18ms) 10 M/Bits DTR
ULTRASTOR 32 K CACHE controller
Diamond Speedstar 16 BIT VGA board with 1 MB (1024x768)
16" NANAO Monitor (1024x768) (non-interlaced)
GATEWAY 2000 101 Key keyboard
DOS 4.01 or 3.3
Microsoft Windows 3.0
Microsoft Mouse
PHOENIX BIOS

Price: $5945.00

They are also offering 120 MB tape back up for $295.00 (how important is
a tape back up --you can tell I am new to this game!)

Money is not a concern here. What I would like to know is your opinions
on various components that are being used in this configuration. I know
that so far GATEWAY folks have had a very satifactory track record. So
I am not worried about the company itself but are these components very
reliable. If not, which ones should be changed and what will be a better
brand name for them!!

I thank you in advance and if the information is of general interest, I
will certainly post a summary. I read the news group regularly but in
the interest of avoiding a clutter on the newsgroup, you can mail to me
directly.

Pradeep Misra
pmisra@eve.wright.edu
pmisra@valhalla.cs.wright.edu

am42+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Paul Morris) (03/09/91)

It's a good system the way it is.  I just bought their 386/33 version
which is basically the same as what your looking at except 4megs, 135meg
ESDI (I had my own hard disk), and of course the 486 chip. It's
excellent!!!  Esp with a 300meg drive, backup (Esp. at $295 for 120meg!)
 is definately a good deal!  If your drive ever crashes, and you back up
regularly, you really won't have to worry about losing a thing!  I
didn't know it was only $295 for 120meg backup.  I might consider
getting one from them now!  I have a Compaq back home with 550 megs and
a Compaq 135meg backup unit that cost $1000 several years back!!!

    Alexander Morris                  "People die, things change...
    Carnegie Mellon                             It's sad."

akcs.gregc@vpnet.chi.il.us (*Greg*) (03/12/91)

Oh, one more thing about Nanao 16" Monitors:

Make sure you get the 9070U.  Or the one with .28 dot pitch.  Much crisper
monitor at high resolutions.

akcs.gregc@vpnet.chi.il.us (*Greg*) (03/12/91)

If this machine can only expand to 12 Megs of RAM.  I would have Second
thoughts if you need 16 Megs in the future.

8 Megs of RAM is ok.  But Micronics Motherboards usually hold only 12 megs
tops!

Everything sounds great.  Everybody gets you on the extras. :)

smsmith@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M. Smith) (03/16/91)

akcs.gregc@vpnet.chi.il.us (*Greg*) writes:
>If this machine can only expand to 12 Megs of RAM.  I would have Second
>thoughts if you need 16 Megs in the future.
>
>8 Megs of RAM is ok.  But Micronics Motherboards usually hold only 12 megs
>tops!

I have a 386-33 from Ultra-Comp.  Ultra-Comp uses the same Micronics
motherboard as Gateway.  It holds 4 MEG on board with an additional
12 MEG on an optional card.  This gives 16 MEG total.  I believe
16 MEG is the minumum for Micronics 386 and 486 motherboards.

You might have been thinking of just the proprietary 12 MEG RAM card.

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feg@clyde.ATT.COM (Forrest Gehrke,2C-119,7239,ATTBL) (03/18/91)

In article <1991Mar15.193130.5254@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> smsmith@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M. Smith) writes:
>
>I have a 386-33 from Ultra-Comp.  Ultra-Comp uses the same Micronics
>motherboard as Gateway.  It holds 4 MEG on board with an additional
>12 MEG on an optional card.  This gives 16 MEG total.  I believe
>16 MEG is the minumum for Micronics 386 and 486 motherboards.
>
>You might have been thinking of just the proprietary 12 MEG RAM card.

I believe Gateway is currently shipping a system using a different
Micronics motherboard which can have up to 8MB ram on it, unlike
an earlier board which could only have 4MB on the motherboard.

Gateway tends to vary the makeup of their PC's depending upon
competitive conditions.  If they can find a board or device
at less cost which allows them to reduce the price, they
just do it.  Thus the different Micronics board, the use
of a 200MB IDE hard disk, NI monitor and Diamond video board.

My PC, purchased from them just three months ago has a different
makeup, although I have upgraded to the NI monitor and Diamond
board.

Someone recently termed this "screwdriver" configuration, although
I have found that IBM does the same thing, though perhaps not
so often.

Forrest Gehrke feg@dodger.att.com