[comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware] Formatting a 1.44 MB disk to 720 kB - easy!

enzerinkp@topaz.ucq.edu.au (Peter Enzerink, UCCQ, Australia.) (05/18/91)

In article <1991May16.220514.23423@ariel.unm.edu>, ee5391aa@triton.unm.edu (Duke McMullan n5gax) writes:
> Just that...how?  For background, I have a 12MHz `286 box, which runs messdos
> 3.3 with 4dos.  Drive A: is a high-density 5.25" floppy; drive B: is a high-
> density 3.5" microfloppy.  Can this be done?  Am I staring right through the
> answer, which is sitting right there in the doc.s for all to see?
> 
> 						Thanks,
> 						    d

What's wrong with simply:

>FORMAT b: /4

Works for me in a panasonic and chinon 3 1/2 drive!

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winstead@faraday.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Holden Winstead) (05/18/91)

How's this for easy -- 

put tape over the hole which tells your drive that it's high density.  Unless
it's a PS/2, it should automatically format low density.  (PS/2's format all
disk HD unless specifically told not to.)

-Chuck

lair@ellis.uchicago.edu (Scott A. Laird) (05/18/91)

In article <1991May18.055951.8941@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> winstead@faraday.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Holden Winstead) writes:
>
>How's this for easy -- 
>
>put tape over the hole which tells your drive that it's high density.  Unless
>it's a PS/2, it should automatically format low density.  (PS/2's format all
>disk HD unless specifically told not to.)
>
>-Chuck


Bzzzt, wrong.  Sorry, simply putting in a low density disk (that's effectivly
what you get by covering the high density hole) will not make format format
it to low density, or at least not with any of the format commands I've used.
It simply gives a bad media error.  I'm not sure about the error for trying 
to format a high density floppy to low density (i.e., disk with h.d. hole
showing, and typing format /f:720), but it doesn't seem to auto-detect the
density.  Of course, IBM solved the issue quite nicely by simply ignoring
the hole, causing much wailing and gnashing of teeth for those of us who
have to transfer data off 3.5's from PS/2s.  New users _always_ format low
density disks to high density, and can never figure out why other computers
can't read them.  I'd really _love_ to know the reason they did that!
 

Basically, though, the DOS (at least 3.3/4.01) format commands default to 1.44 
Mb on 3.5" high density drives, unless you play around with your config.sys
(or format.exe) to tell it otherwise.  You must explicitly tell it to format
low density disks.

Scott.
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winstead@faraday.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Holden Winstead) (05/19/91)

>In article <1991May18.055951.8941@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> winstead@faraday.ece.cmu.edu (Charles Holden Winstead) writes:
>>
>>How's this for easy -- 
>>
>>put tape over the hole which tells your drive that it's high density.  Unless
>>it's a PS/2, it should automatically format low density.  (PS/2's format all
>>disk HD unless specifically told not to.)
>>
>>-Chuck
>
>
>Bzzzt, wrong.  Sorry, simply putting in a low density disk (that's effectivly
>what you get by covering the high density hole) will not make format format
>it to low density, or at least not with any of the format commands I've used.
>It simply gives a bad media error.  I'm not sure about the error for trying 
>to format a high density floppy to low density (i.e., disk with h.d. hole
>showing, and typing format /f:720), but it doesn't seem to auto-detect the
>density.  Of course, IBM solved the issue quite nicely by simply ignoring
>the hole, causing much wailing and gnashing of teeth for those of us who
>have to transfer data off 3.5's from PS/2s.  New users _always_ format low
>density disks to high density, and can never figure out why other computers
>can't read them.  I'd really _love_ to know the reason they did that!
> 
>
>Basically, though, the DOS (at least 3.3/4.01) format commands default to 1.44 
>Mb on 3.5" high density drives, unless you play around with your config.sys
>(or format.exe) to tell it otherwise.  You must explicitly tell it to format
>low density disks.
>
>Scott.
>-- 

Hmm.  At school, this is how I format high density disks on a DELL.  This is
run through Norton Utilities though.  Actually, even if it's formatted low,
the hole tells the DELL that it's high density unless I cover it.


-Chuck

edwong@bucsf.bu.edu (Edward Wong) (05/19/91)

why do you want to cover the high density hole to format a disk?  Don't the
programs have any option for disk formatting?
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