[comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware] Trident VS. STB

chuj@horton.colorado.edu (CHU JEFFREY) (06/15/91)

I just tried my new Trident SVGA 1MB card against my 1 year old STB
POWERGRAPH 1 MB card, the machine used is a 486-33,  application was
POWER METER (ver. ?).  The TRIDENT LOST, the most difference in the
test was the FILL which was 3 seconds apart.  PMUs, Trident was behind
by about 20 PMU from the STB.  I use the 640x480 16 color mode which was
the highest rez for the test.  I did this to decide where the card was
going to be placed, the Trident is now in my 286-16 and the STB will
remain in the 486-33.  I had also problems before with the TRIDENT
conflicting with the MICROSCIENCE 122meg RLL (customers machine).  If
you are deciding a STB or TRIDENT pick the STB card, never had any
problems with it.


						Jeff

nyet@nntp-server.caltech.edu (n liu) (06/16/91)

chuj@horton.colorado.edu (CHU JEFFREY) writes:

>I just tried my new Trident SVGA 1MB card against my 1 year old STB
>POWERGRAPH 1 MB card, the machine used is a 486-33,  application was
>POWER METER (ver. ?).  The TRIDENT LOST, the most difference in the
>test was the FILL which was 3 seconds apart.  PMUs, Trident was behind
>by about 20 PMU from the STB.  I use the 640x480 16 color mode which was
>the highest rez for the test.  I did this to decide where the card was
>going to be placed, the Trident is now in my 286-16 and the STB will
>remain in the 486-33.  I had also problems before with the TRIDENT
>conflicting with the MICROSCIENCE 122meg RLL (customers machine).  If
>you are deciding a STB or TRIDENT pick the STB card, never had any
>problems with it.

Total agreement here. Tseng4000 is simply a much better chipset
than Trid8900. I'd go on and on here how much I need to replace
my Trident card with a 4000, but i don't want to scare away potential
suc(oops) buyers :-)

Here's what vidspeed had to say:
Swan Tseng4000:

 2426 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  40x25 (text)
 2420 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  80x25 (text)
 2417 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  80x50 (text)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  320x200x4 (CGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  640x200x2 (CGA)
 2419 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  640x200x16 (EGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 24.52KHz 70.11Hz  640x350x16 (EGA)
 2417 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  320x200x16 (EGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.11Hz  320x200x256 (VGA/MCGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.77KHz 59.96Hz  640x480x16 (VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.77KHz 59.96Hz  640x480x2 (VGA/MCGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 35.90KHz 59.86Hz  800x600x2 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 35.90KHz 59.86Hz  800x600x16 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 24.52KHz 70.11Hz  640x350x256 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.77KHz 59.96Hz  640x480x256 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 35.90KHz 59.86Hz  800x600x256 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 33.38KHz 86.97Hz  1024x768x2 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 33.38KHz 86.97Hz  1024x768x16 (S-VGA)
 2418 Bytes per millisecond 28.79KHz 60.00Hz  360x480x256 (VGA)

My Trident 8900:

 1828 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  40x25 (text)
 1774 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  80x25 (text)
 1773 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  80x50 (text)
 1760 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  320x200x4 (CGA)
  850 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  640x200x2 (CGA)
  849 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  640x200x16 (EGA)
  849 Bytes per millisecond 24.52KHz 70.10Hz  640x350x16 (EGA)
  850 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  320x200x16 (EGA)
 1751 Bytes per millisecond 28.03KHz 70.10Hz  320x200x256 (VGA/MCGA)
  850 Bytes per millisecond 28.77KHz 59.95Hz  640x480x16 (VGA)
  850 Bytes per millisecond 28.77KHz 59.95Hz  640x480x2 (VGA/MCGA)
  843 Bytes per millisecond 33.74KHz 56.26Hz  800x600x2 (S-VGA)
  843 Bytes per millisecond 33.74KHz 56.26Hz  800x600x16 (S-VGA)
 1841 Bytes per millisecond 28.02KHz 70.08Hz  640x400x256 (S-VGA)
 1841 Bytes per millisecond 28.75KHz 59.93Hz  640x480x256 (S-VGA)
 1601 Bytes per millisecond 33.74KHz 56.26Hz  800x600x256 (S-VGA)
  856 Bytes per millisecond 32.85KHz 85.60Hz  1024x768x2 (S-VGA)
  856 Bytes per millisecond 32.85KHz 85.60Hz  1024x768x16 (S-VGA)
  838 Bytes per millisecond 28.78KHz 59.99Hz  360x480x256 (VGA)

'nuff said!

hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) (06/18/91)

In article <1991Jun15.190813.26882@nntp-server.caltech.edu> nyet@nntp-server.caltech.edu (n liu) writes:
>chuj@horton.colorado.edu (CHU JEFFREY) writes:
>
>>I just tried my new Trident SVGA 1MB card against my 1 year old STB
>>POWERGRAPH 1 MB card, the machine used is a 486-33,  application was
>>POWER METER (ver. ?).  The TRIDENT LOST, the most difference in the
>>test was the FILL which was 3 seconds apart.  PMUs, Trident was behind
>>by about 20 PMU from the STB.  I use the 640x480 16 color mode which was
>>the highest rez for the test.  I did this to decide where the card was
>>going to be placed, the Trident is now in my 286-16 and the STB will
>>remain in the 486-33.  I had also problems before with the TRIDENT
>>conflicting with the MICROSCIENCE 122meg RLL (customers machine).  If
>>you are deciding a STB or TRIDENT pick the STB card, never had any
>>problems with it.
>
>Total agreement here. Tseng4000 is simply a much better chipset
>than Trid8900. I'd go on and on here how much I need to replace
>my Trident card with a 4000, but i don't want to scare away potential
>suc(oops) buyers :-)

Come on. Please be more specific. What I have heard is that Trident is
totally  different  when it comes from  Taiwan or  US.  Also there are
many   and many  different  clones  of   Trident chip  set. Also  many
versions. Based  on this discussion we  can't  blame the whole Trident
chip set can we.


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