hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) (06/13/91)
Now when MS-DOS 5.00 is out, and supports the new, nifty Extended Density
(ED) 3.5" floppy disks with 2.88 Mb capacity, is there somewhere one can
get a drive and controller for such a beast?
/Peter
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"finger" the address above for more information.ray@ole.UUCP (Ray Berry) (06/15/91)
hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) writes: >Now when MS-DOS 5.00 is out, and supports the new, nifty Extended Density >(ED) 3.5" floppy disks with 2.88 Mb capacity, is there somewhere one can >get a drive and controller for such a beast? Can't help on the hardware, but I'll warn you that I saw an article qouting prices for 2.88 MB media that were *very* high- looks like a replay of the scenario we had when 1.44 3 1/2" drives came out- blank floppies were going for $5-6 *each*. -- Ray Berry kb7ht uucp: ...sumax!ole!ray CIS: 73407,3152 /* "inquire within" */
hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) (06/17/91)
In article <2002@ole.UUCP> of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, ray@ole.UUCP (Ray Berry) writes: > > Can't help on the hardware, but I'll warn you that I saw an article > qouting prices for 2.88 MB media that were *very* high- looks like a replay > of the scenario we had when 1.44 3 1/2" drives came out- blank floppies were > going for $5-6 *each*. Of course: currently only brand name diskettes are available, and since only NeXT and a few similar system have been using them so far, it has not been a mass market. The University store sells them for $29 in 5-pack, I think. But prices will drop, and if I am getting a new 3.5" drive anyway I want to avoid getting one that will become obsolete. /Peter -- MAIL: hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (hpa@nwu.edu after this summer) "finger" the address above for more information.
ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) (06/18/91)
From article <1991Jun16.232753.27867@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, by hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin): > In article <2002@ole.UUCP> of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, > ray@ole.UUCP (Ray Berry) writes: >> >> Can't help on the hardware, but I'll warn you that I saw an article >> qouting prices for 2.88 MB media that were *very* high- looks like a replay >> of the scenario we had when 1.44 3 1/2" drives came out- blank floppies were >> going for $5-6 *each*. > > Of course: currently only brand name diskettes are available, and since > only NeXT and a few similar system have been using them so far, it has not > been a mass market. The University store sells them for $29 in 5-pack, I > think. But prices will drop, and if I am getting a new 3.5" drive anyway I > want to avoid getting one that will become obsolete. I doubt the 2.8MB will become a standard anywhere close to 1.44MB now due to the lack of a single major move (IBM adopting 1.44MB for its PS/2's) towards that direction. Besides, most PC users IME (in my estimation) still does not have 1.44MB.
rob@cad4.lbl.gov (Barracuda) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.163955.20140@d.cs.okstate.edu> ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes: >From article <1991Jun16.232753.27867@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, by hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin): >> In article <2002@ole.UUCP> of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, >> ray@ole.UUCP (Ray Berry) writes: [stuff about 2.88 meg disks deleted] > >I doubt the 2.8MB will become a standard anywhere close to 1.44MB now >due to the lack of a single major move (IBM adopting 1.44MB for its PS/2's) >towards that direction. Besides, most PC users IME (in my estimation) >still does not have 1.44MB. And...why go with a stinkin 2.88 meg drive when Insite Peripherals will be coming out with a 20 meg 3.5" floppy in August? It'll be backward compatible with the 1.44 meg and 720k disks too! +-----------------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rob McNamara | This space intentionally | Lankhmar BBS | | rob@cad4.lbl.gov | left blank | (415) 930-9319 | | Lawrence Berkeley Lab | | 1200/2400/9600 HST | +-----------------------+--------------------------+-------------------------+
ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) (06/19/91)
From article <14466@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, by rob@cad4.lbl.gov (Barracuda): > In article <1991Jun18.163955.20140@d.cs.okstate.edu> ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes: >>From article <1991Jun16.232753.27867@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, by hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin): >>> In article <2002@ole.UUCP> of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, >>> ray@ole.UUCP (Ray Berry) writes: > > [stuff about 2.88 meg disks deleted] > >> >>I doubt the 2.8MB will become a standard anywhere close to 1.44MB now >>due to the lack of a single major move (IBM adopting 1.44MB for its PS/2's) >>towards that direction. Besides, most PC users IME (in my estimation) >>still does not have 1.44MB. > > And...why go with a stinkin 2.88 meg drive when Insite Peripherals will be > coming out with a 20 meg 3.5" floppy in August? It'll be backward compatible > with the 1.44 meg and 720k disks too! Well, the last time I heard, the 20meg floppy drive cost $800, with each disk at $25. I doubt it can be popular at that price (or even 1/2 that price)! There is however another alternative. The Syquest 40meg removable hard drive (SCSI) price has come down some what. The last time I flipped thru the magazine, there was an ad that sells the drive (probably w/o the SCSI card) for $350. The setback is the price of each cartridge. Most shops seems to be selling it at $75 each.
rjmanno@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Richard Joseph Manno) (06/20/91)
In article <1991Jun19.040845.25553@d.cs.okstate.edu> ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes: >From article <14466@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, by rob@cad4.lbl.gov (Barracuda): >> In article <1991Jun18.163955.20140@d.cs.okstate.edu> ong@d.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG) writes: >>>From article <1991Jun16.232753.27867@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>, by hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin): >>>> In article <2002@ole.UUCP> of comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, >>>> ray@ole.UUCP (Ray Berry) writes: >> >> [stuff about 2.88 meg disks deleted] >> > >There is however another alternative. The Syquest 40meg removable >hard drive (SCSI) price has come down some what. The last time I >flipped thru the magazine, there was an ad that sells the drive >(probably w/o the SCSI card) for $350. The setback is the price >of each cartridge. Most shops seems to be selling it at $75 each. If you consider what it would cost per disk to buy 40megs worth of 1.44 meg disks at a total price of $75, it would come to about $2.67 per disk ($75 / 28 disks --> 28 1.44meg disks is approx. 40megs). This doesn't sound too outrageous when you consider that what your getting is really a hard disk with considerable speed advantage over the equivalent floppies. Not to mention that it's a lot easier to deal with 1 40meg cartridge than 28 1.44meg floppies. Rich :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't believe anything I say. I'm just a student, so none of my knowledge is official. -------------------------------------------------------------------