Robert_Bell@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Bell) (06/18/91)
Inorder to invoke the diagnostics press the delete key after the computer has finished its ram check. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Bell uunet!van_bc!rsoft!mindlink!a1076 Benndorf-Verster a1076@mindlink.uucp Vancouver Canada voice 604-853-5870 -------------------------------------------------------------------
ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) (06/19/91)
My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of the features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one invoke these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard documentation. On the other hand, is it possible my BIOS doesn't have this feature? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ken Roser - WA2VCI - ker@mtgzy.att.com - AT&T Bell Laboratories - 908-957-5822 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
reisert@mast.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com>, ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes... >My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of the >features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one invoke >these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard documentation. I have an older AMI BIOS in my Northgate, and during the boot process, before it access the disks, there is a prompt to hit DEL to get to the SETUP/DIAGNOSTICS menu. Yours should have the same. - Jim =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "The opinions expressed here in no way represent the views of Digital Equipment Corporation." James J. Reisert Internet: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com Digital Equipment Corp. UUCP: ...decwrl!mast.enet!reisert 146 Main Street Voice: 508-493-5747 Maynard, MA 01754 FAX: 508-493-0395
ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) (06/19/91)
I thank everyone for the responses that indicate I should be able to run diagnostics after hitting DEL at boot time, but it just isn't true with my BIOS. I can only enter SETUP after hitting DEL. My motherboard uses a chipset called "TI Tiger" and possibly AMI doesn't support the diagnostics for this particular motherboard/chipset. In article <23619@shlump.lkg.dec.com> reisert@mast.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes: > >In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com>, ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes... >>My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of the >>features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one invoke >>these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard documentation. > >I have an older AMI BIOS in my Northgate, and during the boot process, >before it access the disks, there is a prompt to hit DEL to get to the >SETUP/DIAGNOSTICS menu. Yours should have the same. > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ken Roser - WA2VCI - ker@mtgzy.att.com - AT&T Bell Laboratories - 908-957-5822 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
chaz@chinet.chi.il.us (Charlie Kestner) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com> ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes: >My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of the >features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one invoke >these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard documentation. > >On the other hand, is it possible my BIOS doesn't have this feature? You can get to the diagnostics (provided your BIOS has them), by doing whatever is required to get to the CMOS setup program at bootup. On my AMI BIOS (dated 4/90), I get there by hitting the delete key at bootup. The BIOS then presents me with a choice of "SETUP" or "DIAGS".
harbula@edinboro.edu (Dave Harbula) (06/19/91)
In article <23619@shlump.lkg.dec.com>, reisert@mast.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes: > In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com>, ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes... >>My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of the >>features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one invoke >>these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard documentation. > I have an older AMI BIOS in my Northgate, and during the boot process, > before it access the disks, there is a prompt to hit DEL to get to the > SETUP/DIAGNOSTICS menu. Yours should have the same. Hmmm... The AMI bios in my ARES is dated 3/91 wants me to hit ESC. - Dave
cg108w3@ucsd.edu (Steve - Happy Hacker) (06/21/91)
--=}>> On 19 Jun 91 03:48:26 GMT, chaz@chinet.chi.il.us (Charlie Kestner) said: CK> In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com> ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes: >My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of >the features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one >invoke these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard >documentation. > >On the other hand, is it possible my BIOS doesn't have this feature? CK> You can get to the diagnostics (provided your BIOS has them), by ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ CK> doing whatever is required to get to the CMOS setup program at CK> bootup. On my AMI BIOS (dated 4/90), I get there by hitting the CK> delete key at bootup. The BIOS then presents me with a choice of CK> "SETUP" or "DIAGS". I have seen several (including my own) AMI BIOS's that DO NOT have the diagnostics program in them. AMI offers the same diagnostics on disk, and I was able to find them on a local BBS. Although, it would be nicer to be able to use them when the computer won't boot at all. For the interested, I have an Amstrad 386/33 motherboard with the VLSI brand chip set. Hitting Del at boot time gives me the choice of RUN SETUP or REBOOT. Also, it has no extended BIOS configurations. Things like bus speed and wait states are all jumper controlled. Looks like there are different types of AMI BIOS's. -Steve -- }>> Steve Haehnichen <<{ shaehnichen@ucsd.edu Disclaimer: UCSD and I do not share any opinions.
rice@ecn.purdue.edu (Ken Rice) (06/21/91)
In article <CG108W3.91Jun20171751@icogsci1.ucsd.edu>, cg108w3@ucsd.edu (Steve - Happy Hacker) writes: |> --=}>> On 19 Jun 91 03:48:26 GMT, chaz@chinet.chi.il.us (Charlie Kestner) said: |> |> CK> In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com> ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes: |> |> >My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of |> >the features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one |> >invoke these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard |> >documentation. |> > |> >On the other hand, is it possible my BIOS doesn't have this feature? |> |> CK> You can get to the diagnostics (provided your BIOS has them), by |> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |> CK> doing whatever is required to get to the CMOS setup program at |> CK> bootup. On my AMI BIOS (dated 4/90), I get there by hitting the |> CK> delete key at bootup. The BIOS then presents me with a choice of |> CK> "SETUP" or "DIAGS". |> |> I have seen several (including my own) AMI BIOS's that DO NOT have the |> diagnostics program in them. AMI offers the same diagnostics on disk, |> and I was able to find them on a local BBS. Although, it would be |> nicer to be able to use them when the computer won't boot at all. I agree. My DataExpert 386SX has the OPTI chipset with AMI bios. When I hit DEL, after RAM tests, I get the choice of SETUP or Extended SETUP. No diagnostics. |> |> For the interested, I have an Amstrad 386/33 motherboard with the VLSI |> brand chip set. Hitting Del at boot time gives me the choice of RUN |> SETUP or REBOOT. Also, it has no extended BIOS configurations. |> Things like bus speed and wait states are all jumper controlled. |> |> Looks like there are different types of AMI BIOS's. |> |> -Steve |> -- |> }>> Steve Haehnichen <<{ |> shaehnichen@ucsd.edu Disclaimer: UCSD and I do not share any opinions. -- rice@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu ...!pur-ee!rice Ken Rice, Computer Maintenance Engineer Engineering Computer Network, Electrical Engineering Department Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana 47907
dlg6627@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darmawan Ludirdja) (06/21/91)
cg108w3@ucsd.edu (Steve - Happy Hacker) writes: >--=}>> On 19 Jun 91 03:48:26 GMT, chaz@chinet.chi.il.us (Charlie Kestner) said: >CK> In article <1991Jun18.170421.26077@cbnewsj.att.com> ker@cbnewsj.att.com (kenneth.roser) writes: >>My 386-33 machine has an AMI bios dated 5/91. I thought that one of >>the features of an AMI BIOS was built in diagnostics. How does one >>invoke these diagnostics? It's not specified in my motherboard >>documentation. >> >>On the other hand, is it possible my BIOS doesn't have this feature? >CK> You can get to the diagnostics (provided your BIOS has them), by > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >CK> doing whatever is required to get to the CMOS setup program at >CK> bootup. On my AMI BIOS (dated 4/90), I get there by hitting the >CK> delete key at bootup. The BIOS then presents me with a choice of >CK> "SETUP" or "DIAGS". >I have seen several (including my own) AMI BIOS's that DO NOT have the >diagnostics program in them. AMI offers the same diagnostics on disk, >and I was able to find them on a local BBS. Although, it would be >nicer to be able to use them when the computer won't boot at all. >For the interested, I have an Amstrad 386/33 motherboard with the VLSI >brand chip set. Hitting Del at boot time gives me the choice of RUN >SETUP or REBOOT. Also, it has no extended BIOS configurations. >Things like bus speed and wait states are all jumper controlled. >Looks like there are different types of AMI BIOS's. >-Steve >-- >}>> Steve Haehnichen <<{ > shaehnichen@ucsd.edu Disclaimer: UCSD and I do not share any opinions. There are some variety of AMI BIOSes!. If you would like to know boot your computer before the system information (while memory checking) on the left bottom of the screen you could read a line Depending on what type of AMI bios you have if it is begin with letter E ==> extended follow by chipset type of your motherboard and release date of BIOS. i.e. ESIS ==> Extended CMOS setup with SIS chipset. if you press del after memory checking you will find XCMOS on the third line. letter D ==> diagnostics. follow by chipset type and date of release of the BIOS i.e DINT ==> Diagnostics setup with Intel compatible. DC&T ==> Diagnostics setup with C&T chipset. etc..... Darmawan dlg6627@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu