Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) (10/09/90)
Well, I've tried getting the answer from the source, and no one at Microsoft
seemed able to answer.
What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft
Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for
Windows 3.0 and would like to package a run-time version of Windows 3.0 with
it. Unfortunately, like I say, no one at MicroSoft could seem to put me in
touch with the right person to get in touch with. So, I hoped someone here
might be able to clue me in. Any ideas out there? Have you done it?
e3v2@rpitsmts.bitnet
Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu
In this case my views do reflect my employeer.jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) (10/09/90)
In a recent article Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: > What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft > Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for According to numerous summaries of Windows 3 (both in the Microsoft documentation and in published reviews) there is no run-time version of Windows 3. A software vendor could probably swing a deal with Microsoft to package the full Windows 3 system with its product, but at the relatively small cost ($90-110 on the street) for the full Windows 3 system there is relatively little need for a dedicated version. Clearly, there will be some cases where a potential user has no need for using Windows on more than one application, but to me it's significant that this is the first time I've seen or heard of anyone seriously asking about the run-time system. Joe Morris
jamesp@world.std.com (james M peterson) (10/09/90)
In article <11485.2400.forumexp@mts.rpi.edu> Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) > What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft > Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for > Windows 3.0 and would like to package a run-time version of Windows 3.0 with > it. Unfortunately, like I say, no one at MicroSoft could seem to put me in > touch with the right person to get in touch with. So, I hoped someone here > might be able to clue me in. Any ideas out there? Have you done it? > > e3v2@rpitsmts.bitnet > Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu There is no runtime version of windows three. The whole package is the only version. MS cut the RT version because it was extra overhead, etc... (info from an old issue of info world) jamesp@world.std.com Reality is not an industry standard
freak@cbnewsc.att.com (c.e.malloy..iii) (10/09/90)
In article <11485.2400.forumexp@mts.rpi.edu>, Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: > What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft > Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for > Windows 3.0 and would like to package a run-time version of Windows 3.0 with > it. Unfortunately, like I say, no one at MicroSoft could seem to put me in > touch with the right person to get in touch with. So, I hoped someone here > might be able to clue me in. Any ideas out there? Have you done it? There is no procedure for getting a run-time version of Windows 3.0. There is no run-time version of Windows 3.0. To use a program that runs under Windows 3.0 you must have the real, full version of Windows 3.0. I personally never saw the use of a run-time version. After all if you want to run a program that works under DOS, you don't a run-time version of DOS, do you? No! If you want to run some software that works with Windows, you should buy Windows. The other day I bought a program that runs under Windows 3.0. And since there was no run-time version, they included an upgrate form for Windows 3.0. So it I didn't have Windows 3.0, I could get it for only $50.00. Clancy Malloy <disclaim.std>
spolsky-joel@cs.yale.edu (Joel Spolsky) (10/10/90)
In article <10442.1319.forumexp@mts.rpi.edu> Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: |What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft |Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for |Windows 3.0 and would like to package a run-time version of Windows 3.0 with |it. You can't. There is no such thing as run-time Windows any more. Joel Spolsky spolsky@cs.yale.edu Silence = Death
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (10/10/90)
In article <122650@linus.mitre.org> jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes: >In a recent article Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: > >> What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft >> Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for > >According to numerous summaries of Windows 3 (both in the Microsoft >documentation and in published reviews) there is no run-time version of >Windows 3. A software vendor could probably swing a deal with Microsoft to >package the full Windows 3 system with its product, but at the relatively >small cost ($90-110 on the street) for the full Windows 3 system there >is relatively little need for a dedicated version. Clearly, there will be >some cases where a potential user has no need for using Windows on more >than one application, but to me it's significant that this is the first >time I've seen or heard of anyone seriously asking about the run-time system. Note that Microsoft will license for FREE to commercial developers a Working Modem version of Windows 3.0, This version is a"crippled" version of Windows 3.0 that allows saving of only two pages of files and a limited number of drivers. It is supposed to be used to buil"demo" copies of Windows applications that can be run by anybody that does NOT have windows. All the currently Working Models for Excel, MS-Word and PowerPoint (?) are built tha way. The working copy will run only when used with the special Working Copy of Windows, not the real release. One can ask for the Working copy software calling the usual MS 800 number, they'll mail you a questionnaire and subsequently a license agreement. -- marco -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Xerox sues somebody for copying?" -- David Letterman -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Kai-Uwe Rommel) (10/10/90)
In article <11485.2400.forumexp@mts.rpi.edu> Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: > What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft > Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for > Windows 3.0 and would like to package a run-time version of Windows 3.0 with > it. Unfortunately, like I say, no one at MicroSoft could seem to put me in > touch with the right person to get in touch with. So, I hoped someone here > might be able to clue me in. Any ideas out there? Have you done it? The official statement on the Windows 3.0 presentation I heard in Munich was, that there is no longer a runtime version of Windows available for 3.0 and newer versions. All users are required to have the full product. I think that's good. This allows them to use the other tools included with Windows, like Program Manager, File Manager, Write and Paintbrush or even Terminal, the others are toys. Also, Windows 3.0 is really cheap to get. MS anounced here that any users of 2.x runtime versions can upgrade this to the FULL 3.0 product for the same price as the upgrade from 2.x full product to 3.0 and I have already done this once for a runtime which came with Excel 2.1. Kai Uwe Rommel -- /* Kai Uwe Rommel * Munich * rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de */
medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici) (10/11/90)
Greg_d._Moore@mts.rpi.edu (Commander Krugannal) writes: | Well, I've tried getting the answer from the source, and no one at Microsoft | seemed able to answer. | | What is the procedure for obtaining a run-time license for MicroSoft | Windows 3.0? The company I am consulting for, is developing a product for | Windows 3.0 and would like to package a run-time version of Windows 3.0 with | it. Unfortunately, like I say, no one at MicroSoft could seem to put me in | touch with the right person to get in touch with. So, I hoped someone here | might be able to clue me in. Any ideas out there? Have you done it? Microsoft announced at the Windows 3.0 introduction that they will not offer run-time versions/licenses for version this product. However, their position on Windows 2.1x run-time licenses were ambiguous. It seems if you already have a run-time 2.1x license, you can continue to distribute it. However, it may not (though I'm not sure) offer new licenses. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Medici/SysProg3 * Rutgers University/CCIS * medici@elbereth.rutgers.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu (Duncan Murdoch) (10/11/90)
In article <4822@tuminfo1.lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de> rommel@lan.informatik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Kai-Uwe Rommel) writes: >All users are required to have >the full product. I think that's good. This allows them to use the >other tools included with Windows, like Program Manager, File Manager, >Write and Paintbrush or even Terminal, the others are toys. Also, >Windows 3.0 is really cheap to get. MS anounced here that any users of >2.x runtime versions can upgrade this to the FULL 3.0 product for the >same price as the upgrade from 2.x full product to 3.0 and I have >already done this once for a runtime which came with Excel 2.1. This must really limit your market, though. Take me for example: I don't have much free disk space, and just don't have room for the reported 10 Megs of Windows 3. I imagine that could be reduced by judicious pruning, but MS usually doesn't provide installation programs that are smart enough to do that easily. Duncan Murdoch dmurdoch@watstat.waterloo.edu
eagle@hobbes.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu) (10/12/90)
In article <84713@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> frank michael cooper <cooper@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: >It is my understanding that Windows 3.0 will NOT have a runtime >version available. >Users of Windows 3.0 Apps will need to buy or have Windows 3.0. > -Mike This may not be true. Look in the latest issue of BYTE magazine. There is an add for some working models of some Microsoft software. They are offering one free, but all the others are $9.95. The working models they have are Project for Windows, Windows 3.0, Word for Windows, and one other, I think (can't remember what it is at this moment). -- Daniel C. L'Hommedieu III Internet: eagle@hobbes.catt.ncsu.edu Prodigy ID: BCCJ33D dclhomm@eos.ncsu.edu