[net.travel] Summary of info on Pacific Northwest

ejc@hocsd.UUCP (07/20/84)

Last month I posted the following questions about the Pacific Northwest.
I got a lot of responses and had a real good time. I am summing up the
responses plus adding my two cents for the next guy.

>I am planning a trip from Seattle to San Francisco in July. Any
>recomendations? I have the LET'S GO: California and the Pacific
>Northwest book. Specifically I have the following questions?

>	1) Good areas for whitewater rafting?
Rogue R. in SW OR., Deschutes in Central OR, lots of others.
Skykomish and Methow in WA. Best to spend several days instead of a one
day trip.

>	2) Is Oregon Caves worthwhile (can you do some very amateur
>	   spelunking or is it another one of those paved caves with
>	   electricity and phone service e.g. Howe Caverns )

It's a Nat. Park Service cave set up to handle hordes of
people--enough said! Ape caves near Mt. St. Helens, Ice caves
near Bend were recommended. Mt Rainier also has ice caves but they were
still snowed in (mid- July).

>	3) How cold does it get? How wet.
I am begining to think that the rain bit is all a conspiracy to keep the
So. Cal. types out, I didnt get rained on once in 12 days. But they say
it does rain, and it is mild along the coast. Inland gets hot. So do
volcanoes.

>	4) Is it worth it to go to Olympic for only a day?
Yes, if its a clear day. Go to Hurricane ridge, nice day hikes. Hoh
valley on the other side is also nice. The ferry to the peninsula is
good.

>	5) Where is the best costal area? Both for beaches and scenery?
I drove the entire coast from Lincoln City, OR to SF. It is all
spectacular. Specific places people recommended are Coos Bay, Cannon
Beach, Depoe Bayall in OR. The water is cold so dont expect to do much
swimming. You can rent dune buggies at the OR
Dunes state park. Redwood National Park in CA is real nice. You can get
horses in Orick,CA. Avenue of the giants is a nice drive near Eureka.
About the roads; 101 in OR is a lot better than 1 in CA. CA 1 is a very
slow winding road. Take it only if you are in the mood to enjoy the
scenery, not if you want to make tracks.

>	6) There is no number 6.
Most frequently answered question.

>	7) Can you go to the top of Mt. Lassen in a day hike? (& return)
They all say you could. It helps to be in good shape, though.

>	8) Mt St. Helens: Is she smokin'? What is the best way to see
>	   it.
Real good, unique scenery ( Please dont FLAME me, net readers of
Krakatoa (east of java, molten bodies, fiery lava)). Flights out of
Morton cost $35 and go right to the crater. Or you can waste the whole
day finding out that there is no airport in Randle and no planes in
Packwood. Flights from further away means less time over devestation
area. You can drive well into the devastation area. The roads are mostly
paved and 1 lane (both directions). Not fun at night. Also stop by the
visitors center near I5 to see a good film. Make sure to look at a map
beforehand so you dont spend all your time backtracking (I was through
Randle 3 times, and it wasnt for the nightlife).

>	9) Being from Manhattan I may o.d. on nature by day 3. Just in
>	   case , what good city stuff is there in Seattle, Portland or
>	   San Francisco? Especially walking around type things.
Seattle: Seattle Center (world fair site, including museum, China exhibit)
Ferries on the Puget Sound. Pike st.market. Lake  Washington
Locks. Rainier Brewery. Underground tour. Wharf area (touristy).
Imitation fifth avenue.
Portland; Washington Park, including zoo, OMSI (science touchy feely museum),
and Rose Garden. Nice downtown, including some good postmodern
architecture. Nice bus shelters. Nice downtown with lots of
fountains, smiling people,etc. Restored old town.
San Francisco: Go to the convention drunk enough to pick Mondale for
Pres. (too late, 2000+ people already did that)
>	10) Is the Boeing factory tour good. Is the building really
>	   bigger then the Bell Labs Holmdel atrium? What about the
>	   Weyerhauser tour?
Boeing tour is OK. Big building but you dont get to see much. When I was
there it didnt look like anybody was doing anything except drinking
coffee. Get there a few minutes before the 9AM tour. Holmdel will be
bigger after our next building cloning.  Weyerhauser tour in
Springfield, OR was recommended. South of Eureka,CA is the Georgia
Pacific Lumber mill in Scotia. Very good tour, explains where all those
logging trucks are going to. Very convinient if you are going to the
redwoods. Free and self guided.

>	11) Nightlife?
The usual stuff, better schedule a trip to NY.

>	12) Anything interesting on the way from Lassen to S.F.?
Unanimously, NO, via inland route.

>	13) Speed traps in Oregon, Washington?
Some near cities, otherwise not many. The big trap is that if you speed
you see the coast and mountains for less time. Save your speeding for
IOWA, KANSAS, etc.

>	14) Is it worth it to spend two days in B.C.? Where?
Some say Vancouver (Grouse Mt., Gaslight District)
Some say Victoria (shopping, british type place, Butchart
Gardens,Provincial Museum)
I say Victoria is very touristy but the ferry there(from Anacortes),
through the San Juans is nice. So are the gardens. B.C. is a good place
to go for a change of scenery.

>	15) Good day hikes in Olympic, Rainier, and Lassen?
>
Olympic: people say there are good hikes from Hurricane ridge.
Rainier: A nice tough hike is from Paradise to Camp Muir. It is 9 miles
round trip with a 5000 ft elevation increase. Allow 8-10 hours. When I
was there all the trails were through snow, so be prepared.
Lassen: Good hike to the top.

Other suggestions:
Columbia Gorge near portland: Nice drive, hiking also including
Multnumah Falls.
Mt Hood: Touristy type lodge at Timberline Lodge. Good food, great scenery.
Crater Lake: A few hours out of the way if you are going down the coast,
but people say it is nice.
Oregon Strawberries and Washington Cherries were great.

>O.K. Thanks a lot. If you are ever in NY stop by Houston St. and The
>Bowery, tell them I sent you and you will get your windows cleaned.
Response was tremendous, had to hire extra help. Thanks!

Thanks to:
Bob Warren Don Hawkins Barbara Zanzig Jerry Peek Jeff Winslow Bill Randle
Phil White Jim McBeath Stanford N Payzer Barbara Siefken Eric Drucker,
mostly from Tektronix.

The winner and only entry in the Be Obnoxious to a Fellow Traveler
Contest is aluxe!2141smh   for the following reply:
Oregon and Washington don't want wise asses so why don't you go
straight to California and pound sand.

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