[comp.os.msdos.programmer] Desqview/X

jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) (12/22/90)

I'm not sure where to put this posting, in Desqview, in X, or MSDOS
programmer.  Since I read this board all the time, I'm posting it here.
Has anyone seen that little 20+ page pamphlet by Quarterdeck in the
lastest Dr. Dobbs?  It seems that the X-windowing Desqview is gonna
be REAL nice....it looked VERY impressive.  Has anyone heard anything
about this thing?  Right now it's still vaporware, but it look s quite
promising.

Brian

berggren@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Eric Berggren) (12/28/90)

jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) writes:

>I'm not sure where to put this posting, in Desqview, in X, or MSDOS
>programmer.  Since I read this board all the time, I'm posting it here.
>Has anyone seen that little 20+ page pamphlet by Quarterdeck in the
>lastest Dr. Dobbs?  It seems that the X-windowing Desqview is gonna
>be REAL nice....it looked VERY impressive.  Has anyone heard anything
>about this thing?  Right now it's still vaporware, but it look s quite
>promising.

  It's much farther than vaporware. It's scheduled to be released early
next year. Only things I know so far are that :

	1) TCP/IP and Novell Netware support
	2) Runs X11r3  (don't quote me on this!)
	3) Allows X applications to be run locally (under MS-DOS)
	4) EGA+ required
	5) lotsa memory required

  I have no idea how much this beast is going to cost; I'm not even going
to worry about it for a while until at least the second release.
( version 1.x of ANYTHING is always buggy; yes it is written down somehwrere!)

  Any other new info. would be appreciated...


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jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) (12/29/90)

Well, looking at the little booklet they gave me, it says that Desqview/X
will multitask real-mode, 16-bit protected, adn 32-bit protected mode
software.  It supports X11, and has a Desqview Window Manager, OSF/Motif
Window Manager, and Open Look window manager available, soon to be
followed by a TAB Window Manager and XVT....

I don't know what kind of machine or hardware requirements are, but it seems
pretty lean compared to Windows 3.0 (bleh).  I just wish I knew more about
pricing, what is the advantages and disadvantages of writing for Desqview/X,
etc.  It would be nice to find out that Desqview/X code was completely 
portable to all X machines.

Brian

bcw@rti.rti.org (Bruce Wright) (12/30/90)

In article <26096@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, jdb@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Brian K. W. Hook) writes:
> Well, looking at the little booklet they gave me, it says that Desqview/X
> will multitask real-mode, 16-bit protected, adn 32-bit protected mode
> software.  It supports X11, and has a Desqview Window Manager, OSF/Motif
> Window Manager, and Open Look window manager available, soon to be
> followed by a TAB Window Manager and XVT....
> 
> I don't know what kind of machine or hardware requirements are, but it seems
> pretty lean compared to Windows 3.0 (bleh).  I just wish I knew more about
> pricing, what is the advantages and disadvantages of writing for Desqview/X,
> etc.  It would be nice to find out that Desqview/X code was completely 
> portable to all X machines.

Well-written X code is reasonably portable to other X machines (modulo
bugs in the vendor's version of X).  You don't get binary compatibility
(but I don't think anyone would expect that given the number of
different machines that are running X, and without some of the
postcompilation tools that are still more-or-less on the wish list
rather than actual, widely-available products).

It's certainly possible to write _very_ portable code on X, but it's
also possible to write very UNportable code.  Given the number of
different X implementations, there's just no way that you could get
_complete_ portability (even at the source code level) unless the
application was well-written to start with.

Sort of like Unix in general ...

						Bruce C. Wright