ab2r@quads.uchicago.edu (Marshall Abrams) (05/12/91)
yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) and joe@proto.com (Joe Huffman) wrote wondering about where the font came from when Norton Control Center produces a 40-line mode. I don't know much about this aspect of PC's, so what I'm about to say may be extremely naive. I just did very crude measurements of the 40-line and 50-line font heights (by holding a tape measure up to the monitor :-). It looks as if the only difference between them is that the 40-line font has a little bit of space between the bottom of a 'p' or 'q' and the top of a capital letter, whereas the 50-line mode does not. The heights of the characters themselves appear to be the same in either mode. Is it possible that NCC simply copies the 50-line font and modifies it by adding space beneath every character, or something like that? Marshall Abrams
yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) (05/13/91)
In article <1991May11.212813.12636@midway.uchicago.edu> ab2r@quads.uchicago.edu (Marshall Abrams) writes: >yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) and joe@proto.com (Joe Huffman) wrote >wondering about where the font came from when Norton Control Center >produces a 40-line mode. I don't know much about this aspect of PC's, >so what I'm about to say may be extremely naive. > >I just did very crude measurements of the 40-line and 50-line font >heights (by holding a tape measure up to the monitor :-). It looks as >if the only difference between them is that the 40-line font has a >little bit of space between the bottom of a 'p' or 'q' and the top of >a capital letter, whereas the 50-line mode does not. The heights of >the characters themselves appear to be the same in either mode. Is it >possible that NCC simply copies the 50-line font and modifies it by >adding space beneath every character, or something like that? > > Marshall Abrams The secret is that Norton loads its own 10x8 font. This font is in the end of the file NCC.EXE and NCD.EXE. Yossi
yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) (05/13/91)
In article <1991May11.212813.12636@midway.uchicago.edu> ab2r@quads.uchicago.edu (Marshall Abrams) writes: >yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) and joe@proto.com (Joe Huffman) wrote >wondering about where the font came from when Norton Control Center >produces a 40-line mode. I don't know much about this aspect of PC's, >so what I'm about to say may be extremely naive. > >I just did very crude measurements of the 40-line and 50-line font >heights (by holding a tape measure up to the monitor :-). It looks as >if the only difference between them is that the 40-line font has a >little bit of space between the bottom of a 'p' or 'q' and the top of >a capital letter, whereas the 50-line mode does not. The heights of >the characters themselves appear to be the same in either mode. Is it >possible that NCC simply copies the 50-line font and modifies it by >adding space beneath every character, or something like that? > > Marshall Abrams Now I know the answer, Norton loads its OWN 10x8 full font. This font is very near the end of NCC.EXE and NCD.EXE Yossi
yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) (05/13/91)
In article <1991May11.212813.12636@midway.uchicago.edu> ab2r@quads.uchicago.edu (Marshall Abrams) writes: >yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) and joe@proto.com (Joe Huffman) wrote >wondering about where the font came from when Norton Control Center >produces a 40-line mode. I don't know much about this aspect of PC's, >so what I'm about to say may be extremely naive. > >I just did very crude measurements of the 40-line and 50-line font >heights (by holding a tape measure up to the monitor :-). It looks as >if the only difference between them is that the 40-line font has a >little bit of space between the bottom of a 'p' or 'q' and the top of >a capital letter, whereas the 50-line mode does not. The heights of >the characters themselves appear to be the same in either mode. Is it >possible that NCC simply copies the 50-line font and modifies it by >adding space beneath every character, or something like that? > > Marshall Abrams The secret is that Norton loads its own 10x8 font. This font is in the end of the file NCC.EXE and NCD.EXE. Yossi Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer Subject: Re: Where Norton's 40-line font comes from Summary: Expires: References: <1991Apr26.132043.26460@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <1991May11.212813.12636@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: usa Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Keywords: VGA font Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer Subject: Re: Where Norton's 40-line font comes from Summary: Expires: References: <1991Apr26.132043.26460@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <1991May11.212813.12636@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: usa Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Keywords: VGA font In article <1991May11.212813.12636@midway.uchicago.edu> ab2r@quads.uchicago.edu (Marshall Abrams) writes: >yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil) and joe@proto.com (Joe Huffman) wrote >wondering about where the font came from when Norton Control Center >produces a 40-line mode. I don't know much about this aspect of PC's, >so what I'm about to say may be extremely naive. > >I just did very crude measurements of the 40-line and 50-line font >heights (by holding a tape measure up to the monitor :-). It looks as >if the only difference between them is that the 40-line font has a >little bit of space between the bottom of a 'p' or 'q' and the top of >a capital letter, whereas the 50-line mode does not. The heights of >the characters themselves appear to be the same in either mode. Is it >possible that NCC simply copies the 50-line font and modifies it by >adding space beneath every character, or something like that? > > Marshall Abrams Now I know the answer, Norton loads its OWN 10x8 full font. This font is very near the end of NCC.EXE and NCD.EXE Yossi
orenalex@bimacs.BITNET (oren alex) (05/15/91)
Hello, I have a related question. A friend of mine bought a Commodore lap-top (286, Phoenix BIOS, VGA screen) This thing has something against software fonts. Whenever I load a font, the screen shrinks leaving an unused area at the bottom. However, if i then run the norton commander, the screen goes back to normal size but the font size remains the same (thus i get more lines on the screen than i intended). We think the problem is that there are 480 lines on the screen while a "normal" VGA has only 400 in text modes. Any help would be greatly appreciated since my friend cannot use any hebrew fonts on the laptop which reduces it to a paperweight status. Thanx in advance, Alex.