[comp.os.msdos.programmer] Norton Guides

tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu (Carl Schelin) (01/10/91)

In article <jcmorris.662917293@mwunix.mitre.org>, jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) says:
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>shearer@cis.udel.edu (Rob Shearer) writes:
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>>A Guide on creating Guides would be the best...  But an example and/or a list
>>of commands would be sufficiant at this point (or better yet... is there such
>>a thing as a Norton Guide DE-Compiler?)
>
>Programmer's Shop (1-800-421-8006) offers "Decompiler for Norton Guides" 
>from SofSolutions for $49.  I've used it and it seems to work as advertised.
>
>Even if you don't order the decompiler it's useful to have their catalog if
>you expect to be ordering software.  They have the most complete product line
>I've seen in a mail-order house, and their prices are competitive, even for
>products with a thin customer base.  For example, they are the only mail-order
>house I've seen which carries the Windows DDK, and they priced it the same
>as the SDK ($365 vs. $500 list).
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>FYI I was in Crown Books yesterday and saw two boxes marked "The^Norton Guides"
>for 1-2-3 and WordPerfect.  I don't know if their engine uses the same data
>file structure as the original.
>
>Joe Morris


Gaaahh! $49 BUCKS!! If you want a Norton Guides decompiler that
works just fine, I will email it to you, gratis.

Norton Guides Database Decompiler (NGDD) - Decompiles all of the
      "official" Norton Guides databases and can't get some of the
      ones that I have written or retrieved.

Norton Guides Splitter v1.2 (NGS12) - Decompiles all of the guides
      I have ever found, but has a line limit of 256bytes. Since it
      takes all of the high end characters and makes them ^Cxx,
      a string of 79 single line characters exceeds the limit by 60 
      bytes. 

I recommend using NGDD over NGS because it doesn't convert
all non-ascii characters to ^Cxx. If it didn't work on the database
I was working on, I'd then use NGS.

Jeeze, the basic decrypter is so simple.

Carl Schelin
tcs@mailer.jhuapl.edu

jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) (05/16/91)

In Crown Books yesterday I found a copy of the new, improved, Norton
Guides for MASM (also TASM).  Like the others I've seen recently,
the box calls itself "Norton Guides" but is published by Brady.  

Different Symantec sales people say that the Norton Guides either
(a) were or (b) were not sold off before the Symantec/Norton merger,
and in any case they disavow all knowledge of the new, improved NG
package.

So, the Questions:

 - Has anyone used any of the new packages?  If so, do you have any
   comments on it (especially comparing it to the original)?

 - Has *anyone* heard of an upgrade policy for users of the original
   package?

 - Does the new, improved engine accept binary and/or source from the
   original version?

 - Is it worth the effort and/or cost?

I've been pleased with the original code; I mainly use the MASM data
base for its info about the various interrupts and DOS functions.

Joe