[comp.windows.x.motif] X/Motif IDT's - Summary of Responses...mb

boiko@aspen2.enet.dec.com (07/27/90)

>         Is there anyone out there who has compared/used either
> ICS's Xcessory, Sunrise Software Systems ezX, ExoCode from Expert
> Object Corp or TeleUse from TeleSoft?
> 
>         - What are your general feeling about these tools?
> 
>         - How easy to use are these tools?
> 
>         - How good is the available technical support?
> 
>         - How good is the documentation?
> 
>         I do not work for any marketing group, these are questions
> based on my own desire to get feedback on what's available at the
> present time in the IDT space...and yes I am very much aware of our
> own tools under development.
>                                                         Thanks
>                                                         -mike-
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	Below is a summary of the responses I received, from my request:

							-mike-
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I've talked to two guys who used TeleUSE in their master thesis work.
They said that the main disadvantages are that the D-lanaguage (language for
interactive semantics) is not powerful enough and that you have to handle a 
lot of short files with source code to build a complete application.
 
I believe that OSF had TeleUSE in their research program, but decided to 
leave it for the time being.
 
I haven't used TeleUSE personally yet. I hope to try it in the near future.
One of my colleagues have tried it a bit though, so I can ask him for more 
information if you want to. (He's on holiday now)
 
I'm doing a survey on X and Motif stuff and would appreciate if you could 
forward any interesting stuff to me.
 
Regards
 
Erik Sparre
ABB Corporate Research  Dept. KLL   |    Phone    +46 46 168527
Lab for Man-Machine Communication   |    Telex           33709
IDEON Research Park                 |    Fax      +46 46 145620
S-223 70 LUND                       |    Email    erik@abblund.se
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We compared Teleuse and XCessory.  I found them both to be very
useful products, but for different audiences.  TeleUse is a very
complex product that contains a wide breadth of functionality.  It is
useful for applications and programmers that want to have as little as
possible to do with the user interface.  I felt the user interface for
Teleuse was not always intuitive and didn't always follow standard
Motif guidelines.  TeleUse is a mature product (relative to most in
the X/Motif arena) and did not have too many bugs.  We did have a bear
of a time getting up and running the first time.  XCessory, on the
other hand, was easier to use, but seemed to have less functionality.
Getting XCessory up the first time was also easier.  The documentation
on both products was adequate -- nothing spectacular.  I should
mention that we had a pre-release of XCessory.  I wasn't too involved
with communicating with the TeleUse people myself, but based on my
observation of my coleague's interaction with them, they we very
responsive.  They worked with us to get the product working on our
systems and helped us with our problems.  We didn't really have to get
any technical support from the XCessory folks, so I can't comment
their.
 
One final note -- we chose to use XCessory, because the product we are
working on is all user interface and we will control it more.  It was
more important to us to have a product that was easy and intuitive to
use that could quickly allow us to generate a general interface that
we could refine.  At this time, we await our official release copy of
XCessory.  If you would like a follow up report let me know and I can
get back to you in a month, if you have that long.
 
I hope this helps.
 
 
 
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Please send me a summary of any responses you receive. Thanks!
 

NAME:   Michael Strawbridge             	TELE: (301) 975-3852
USMAIL: National Institute of Standards 	ARPA: straw@cam.nist.gov
		and Technology            	UUCP: uunet!cme-durer!straw
        Rm. B-146, Bldg. 225
        Gaithersburg, MD  20899
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I would be interested in hearing what you find. We have been using a
beta version of Xcessary without documentation. We were able to do alot
with it so far. We have the official release on order and will hopefully
have it next week or so.
 
The biggest problem we have had is not having any documentation. Bu that is
our fault. We got our copy from another group in Sony....
 
What product are you folks putting out?
 
My big concern at this point is how will we use the interface builder
with C++....
 
			Bob Berger Sony Advanced Video Tech Center
			408-944-4964
			[uunet,mips]sonyusa!sfcsun!berger
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I think a posted summary of responses, would be appropriate. This seems to
be a bit of a hot issue at the moment.
 
I've tried XBuild from Nixdorf. In my opinion it is not ready as a product
yet, it is buggy slow, and has many parts that don't work.
 
==Fraser Orr <fraser@edc.uucp> +44 506 416778x206
UseNet: {uunet,sun}!atexnet!fraser JANet: fraser%edc@cs.hw.ac.uk
 
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Can you please forward to me any information you receive.  I am looking for
a tool for a project I'm on.
 
Thanks!
 
Stephen Ayers
Atex European Development Centre, A Kodak Company
sda@epps.kodak.com | {sun,uunet,kodak}!atexnet!sda  | ..!uknet!edc!sda
+44 506 41 6778
 
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