gumby@Cygnus.COM (David Vinayak Wallace) (09/18/90)
Date: 17 Sep 90 19:01:34 GMT
From: noren@dinl.uucp (Charles Noren)
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I have a couple of points/questions:
1> I have heard that Stepstone owns a trademark on the name Objective
C. Is this true? Must any other compiler than Stepstone's use a
different name for the language?
2> I am looking for help in writing a runtime library for GNU
Objective C (or whatever it will be called if my question above is
true). Ideally we would integrate with GNU C++ (bletch) so that
Objective C fans could build upon others' work in a more tasteful
fashion.
Having looked at the problem I don't think it's too difficult, but
it will be somewhat time consuming, which is why help would be very
much appreciated. silbar@candygram.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar) (09/18/90)
Gumby writes:
Ideally we would integrate with GNU C++ (bletch) so that...
I think I've heard that the new GNU C compiler (that will come with
Next OS 2.0) will indeed compile both Objective C and C++ together.gumby@Cygnus.COM (David Vinayak Wallace) (09/18/90)
Date: 18 Sep 90 03:34:49 GMT
From: silbar@candygram.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
I think I've heard that the new GNU C compiler (that will come with
Next OS 2.0) will indeed compile both Objective C and C++ together.
I'm painfully aware of the release status of GCC 2.0. I'm not sure
when NeXT's new OS will be released but it will almost certainly be
before GCC 2.0 is ready.
I don't know what changes NeXT may have made to their version of the
compiler, but here's the story on GCC 2.0 and ObjC:
Date: 14 Sep 90 22:21:34
From: gumby@Cygnus.COM (David Vinayak Wallace)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Objective C
In-Reply-To: manis@cs.ubc.ca's message of 11 Sep 90 21:14:19 GMT
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Date: 11 Sep 90 21:14:19 GMT
From: manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis)
On the subject of the Objective-C mods to gcc, is there any word on
the projected availability of gcc 2.0, which, according to the recent
newsletter, will have both Obj-C and C++ support?
2.0 will compile programs written in C, C++, and Objective C.
You will be able to run programs written in C using your system's
libc, and perhaps a gnu libc soon.
You will be able to run programs written in C++ using libG++,
Interviews, or the NIH class library. With some work you could
even use your system's libC, if it has one.
You will not be able to run programs compiled with Gnu's Objective C
except on a NeXT, because there is no runtime library. This is not
NeXT's fault! I have also heard that Stepstone has trademarked the
very name "Objective C" so the FSF may have to call it something else!
It's a crying shame that Stepstone is shooting themselves in the foot
in this way -- the rest of us are getting caught in the ricochet. All
they are doing is forcing people to put up with C++.
If anyone is (seriously) interested in writing or helping write the
runtime, please drop me a line (gumby@cygnus.com). I think a lot of
stuff can be adapted from libG++. Ideally full intercallability is
desirable, but probably impossible to achieve.
I've since discovered that Stepstone has indeed copyrighted the name
Objective C, so the FSF needs a new one.
Only one person has replied to my request for runtime help.