[comp.org.sug] any feedback about sun's free

tadguy@abcfd01.larc.nasa.gov (Tad Guy) (12/11/90)

To anyone who went to SUG...

Did anyone confront Sun about their ``free'' OpenWindows sources
(which costs $1000), preferably in an open forum?

If so, what was the response?  What was the audience attitude?

	...tad

barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) (12/15/90)

In article <TADGUY.90Dec10200525@abi2.larc.nasa.gov> tadguy@abcfd01.larc.nasa.gov (Tad Guy) writes:

   Did anyone confront Sun about their ``free'' OpenWindows sources
   (which costs $1000), preferably in an open forum?

The problem is - the open forum didn't put the people who know to the
mike. I believe the public response was - we'll post a clarification.


I went to the Open Vista's BOF, and meet the person who knew the real
answer. (Her name escapes me).


I believe the correct story (take this with a grain of salt) is

1) if you own a SPARC, you can but the sources for $995

2) If you own SVR4 SOURCE license, you can buy the sources for $995
  (Since this code is already on the source tape - I don't quite see
   the point - unless this is different source. Perhaps the real deal
   is you get the documentation.)

3) If you already bought NeWS source - you can get the Source for $995

4) If you have a non-unix machine - you can buy the source.

I still don't understand the mechanism that will allow me to port to a
non-SPARC machine, if this is indeed legal. When I asked the question
about buying the source for my non-unix home computer - and porting it
to a DECstation - they didn't want to answer this without an attorney.

The real purpose was to make the DEVELOPER's source environment available.
Making the binary port available for non-SPARC machines was not discussed.
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Bruce G. Barnett	barnett@crd.ge.com	uunet!crdgw1!barnett

pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul Graham) (12/15/90)

tadguy@abcfd01.larc.nasa.gov (Tad Guy) writes:
|(which costs $1000), preferably in an open forum?
|
|If so, what was the response?  What was the audience attitude?

at the executive round table it was stated (admitted) that the
people who prepared the release were over zealous in their use
of the word free and that sun was sorry.  someone (rosing?) said
that it was being followed up on but that they didn't have exact
details.  i suppose that's within the realm of possibilities.

i forget the audience reaction.  most folks were busy being pissed
about the sun3 being made an orphan.

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