[comp.org.sug] Response to SUG-CD ROM questions

dinah@lgc.com (Dinah McNutt) (05/17/91)

Hi, I'm the person heading up the SUG-CD rom effort and thought
I would try and make a few clarifications. First of all, this
*is* a volunteer effort. The members of the Sun local user group
here in Houston has spent many hours compiling and testing 
software. 

The costs of producing the SUG CD/ROM are probably more than you would
first imagine. For example, we had to purchase over $10K in hardware
just to get the disk and backup capabilities to support this work. In
addition, administrative personnel (someone had to handle all those
forms), legal costs, overhead (someone has to pay the rent,
electricity, travel, phone calls, etc), and so on puts our costs at
well over $20,000. And after all that is done we still don't have one
CD, just a disk image that will become the CD. In fact, the cost of
the actual CD's themselves, as was pointed out, is minimal.

SUG operates on a very tight budget and we owe it to our members to
try and re-coup the many expenses associated with this project. We 
are also not-for-profit which means any profits will be invested back
into the group. A very good point was made in that we need to work
on membership benefits. Any suggestions in this area are welcome and can
be addressed to board@sug.org. Also, our executive director is Peter Salus
(formerly executive director of Usenix) who can be reached at peter@sug.org.

We spent effort in trying to understand the current copyright laws.
Our attorney has advised us that the only way to guarantee that we
are not infringing on any copyrights is to obtain written permission.
This was not meant to inconvenience anyone, but to protect ourselves and
to protect the authors from unauthorized distribution of their software.
Many contributors have been delighted that we want to include their software
and have even provided us with the latest and greatest versions hot
off the disk.

We have designed the layout so that you can mount the CD
under /usr/sug and the compiled binaries will work. Many pieces of software
require that you know ahead of time where the software will reside. (TeX is
one example.) So if you choose to use the pre-compiled binaries, you may
do so.

We are also providing indexed versions of the sun-managers,sun-spots, and 
sun-nets archives. You can grep through the indexes and then look at
the items of interest "on-line". In addition, the whole disk is laid out
so things are in logical places: 

	/usr/sug
		/bin
		/bin.sun3
		/lib
		/lib.sun3
		/etc
		/share
		/man
		/src

and so on. This is an enormous effort and there will be room for improvement,
but with constructive criticism next year's will be even better (and maybe
even cheaper!) Also, I encourage everyone out there to get involved with
your local Sun user group and SUG. We need help in many different areas.
With the exception of the office staff, SUG is a volunteer organization.
All the board members volunteer our time and we recognize that there are
many different perspectives and ideas and welcome input. That's one reason
the news group comp.org.sug was created - to be a forum for SUG-related
discussions.

Regards,

Dinah McNutt
Secretary, Sun Users Group
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