rdz@ccice5.UUCP (Robert D. Zarcone) (09/19/85)
I have just returned from a vacation that involved driving through New York, Pennsylvania, Deleware, Maryland and D.C., and I thought some observations of driving conditions in these areas might be helpful to others on the net. New York: With all of the problems we may have in this state, I still insist we have one of the BEST road systems in the region! Highways traveled were I-390, I-81, I-90 and state 17. All in good condition except I-81 southbound. Average cruising speed - ~65, average passing speed - ~75. Did not see ANY speed traps. (I-90 toll still too high) Pennsylvania: Great going east-west, IMPOSSIBLE to go north-south. I-81 is a joke! This thing has been under construction since before statehood. NE extension to the Turnpike is a "must take". (toll very reasonable) I-76 and I-95 around Philly are equally bad. East-west expressways from York to Scranton good. Average cruising speed - ~60 east-west, <50 north-south. Average passing speed -~70 east-west, N/A north-south (how can you pass on a TWO lane Interstate?) Deleware: This is the only state that does not have an Interstate highway (unless you count the tiny network around Willmington). But they do have 113 and 13, north-south highways that serve the same purpose. It just takes a while to get used to looking out for traffic lights while doing 70. Average cruising speed - ~60, average passing speed - ~70. Maryland: There seems to be a split personallity here. Off the Interstates one can flow with the traffic (sometimes >70). On the Interstates the limit is 56, PERIOD. This lightens-up somewhat on I-86 north of Baltimore. Average cruising speed - ~65 on expressways, 56 on Interstates. Average passing speed - ~75 on expressways, N/A on Interstates (would you pass if you saw TEN radar traps in <20 miles?). D.C.: This is not a place to drive if you are not used to or don't like big city rush hour traffic! Speed limits and rules of the road do not apply. I found it to be almost a reverse of Boston, you go fast and crazy on the city streets but slow and cautious on the expressways. But then, some of the city streets were wider than the expressways! Not hard to get around in IF you play by their rules. General observation: The Mid-Atlantic states (excluding Pennsylvania) have a road system comperable to the Northeast. Interstates good and fast, secondaries usually more than adequate. Now if you could only drive directly from New York to Maryland... *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
faigin@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Daniel Faigin) (09/21/85)
In article <914@ccice5.UUCP> rdz@ccice5.UUCP (Robert D. Zarcone) writes: >Deleware: >This is the only state that does not have an Interstate highway (unless >you count the tiny network around Willmington). Looking at a map, I see that I-95 goes from Philadelphia to at least Baltimore, passing on its way through Wilmington, Delaware. Also, it looks like I-495 branches off of I-95 in Ardentwon and reconnects near (Delaware) State Hwy 41. Also, I-295 enters from New Jersey and goes to near Wilmington. I am sure there are more. Actually, the only state without an interstate highway is Alaska. Hawaii, in actuality, has 3 interstates -- all on the island of Oahu: H-1 H-2 and H-3. Now you know where interstates 1, 2, and 3 are. Now... Where are the following interstates, if they exist: 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 4 is in florida, 5 in ca/or/wa, 8 in san diego/az, and 10 is LosAngeles to Louisiana. While I'm on the subject, does anyone know how the US highways (NOT THE INTERSTATES) are numbered. Does anyone have a map (esp. of california) showing the US highways BUT NOT THE INTERSTATES (e.g., prob. circa 1950). Daniel. -- UUCP: {akgua allegra ihnp4 hplabs sdcsvax trwrb cbosgd}!sdcrdcf!faigin ARPA: sdcrdcf!faigin@UCLA-LOCUS.ARPA --or-- sdcrdcf!faigin@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU W: SDC, 2525 Colorado MD 91-01; Santa Monica CA 90406; (213) 820-4111 x6393 H: 11743 Darlington Avenue #9; Los Angeles CA 90049; (213) 826-3357 The views and opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of my employer, except the janitor who agrees with everything I write. I hope for his early recovery and release.
kaufman@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (09/24/85)
/* ---------- "Northeast Driving Observations" ---------- */ > I have just returned from a vacation that involved driving through > New York, Pennsylvania, Deleware, Maryland and D.C., and I thought > some observations of driving conditions in these areas might be > helpful to others on the net. > Pennsylvania: > Great going east-west, IMPOSSIBLE to go north-south. I-81 is a joke! > This thing has been under construction since before statehood. NE > extension to the Turnpike is a "must take". (toll very reasonable) > I-76 and I-95 around Philly are equally bad. East-west expressways > from York to Scranton good. Average cruising speed - ~60 east-west, > <50 north-south. Average passing speed -~70 east-west, N/A north-south > (how can you pass on a TWO lane Interstate?) Actually, the whole state is continually under construction. They spend all their time trying to fix highways that for the most part "ain't broke" while not doing some vital work (the construction of a new I-78 through the A-B-E area comes to mind.) It is this observer's theory that road construction is a more popular pastime in Pennsylvania than football and deer hunting combined. If you wish to see another state gone construction- happy, try Ohio, especially on Thanksgiving weekend! > Maryland: > There seems to be a split personallity here. Off the Interstates one > can flow with the traffic (sometimes >70). On the Interstates the limit > is 56, PERIOD. This lightens-up somewhat on I-86 north of Baltimore. > Average cruising speed - ~65 on expressways, 56 on Interstates. Average > passing speed - ~75 on expressways, N/A on Interstates (would you pass > if you saw TEN radar traps in <20 miles?). I think you mean I-83 there. Never having run that stretch of 83, I wouldn't know, though 95 going toward Wilmington is also heavily patrolled. On the other hand, I-70 west of the Baltimore-Washington area is not covered so heavily, and once you hit the mountains, you will also be rewarded with some nice views. Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)
wcs@ho95e.UUCP (Bill.Stewart.4K435.x0705) (09/24/85)
> I have just returned from a vacation that involved driving through > New York, Pennsylvania, Deleware, Maryland and D.C., and I thought > some observations of driving conditions in these areas might be > helpful to others on the net. ... > Delaware: > This is the only state that does not have an Interstate highway (unless > you count the tiny network around Willmington). But they do have 113 and > 13, north-south highways that serve the same purpose. It just takes > a while to get used to looking out for traffic lights while doing 70. > Average cruising speed - ~60, average passing speed - ~70. The heck they don't! It's true the main north-south route below Wilmington area isn't an interstate, but most of the traffic on it is going to the beach or to southern Delaware / Easter Shore MD/VA anyway; there's not a lot of though traffic. (Remember that the southern 2/3 of Delaware is on a peninsula, and 2/3 of the people live in the northern 1/3 of the state.) I-95 and several derivatives ( [2468]95 ) go through the northern part of the state, connecting the New Jersey Turnpike, Baltimore, and southern Philadelphia. -- ## Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs
kaufman@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (09/26/85)
/* Written 10:22 am Sep 21, 1985 by faigin@sdcrdcf.UUCP in uiucdcs:net.travel */ Where are the following interstates, if they exist: 4,5,6,7,8,9,10 4 is in florida, 5 in ca/or/wa, 8 in san diego/az, and 10 is LosAngeles to Louisiana. While I'm on the subject, does anyone know how the US highways (NOT THE INTERSTATES) are numbered. Does anyone have a map (esp. of california) showing the US highways BUT NOT THE INTERSTATES (e.g., prob. circa 1950). /* End of text from uiucdcs:net.travel */ Actually. I-10 goes all the way to Jacksonville. Like the interstates, US highways are given odd numbers if they are considered N-S routes, and even numbers for E-W roads. Unlike the interstates, the numbers increase as you go south and west, so you have US 1 in Maine and Florida, US 2 in Maine and Washington, US 98 in Southern Florida and along the Gulf Coast, And US 101 along the Pacific coast. I don't think you'll find any US highways in Alaska or Hawaii. Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman: Right off US 45)