jmp@jaco.Frame.COM (Jeff Papineau) (06/27/91)
I need a second Mac, and will consider paying a reasonable price for any of the following Macs: SE No SE30's please, that machine is a dog (slow SCSI). You can buy a new Classic for $1000, so I figure $7-900 tops for a used SE, depending on configuration, unless its got a big disk (which I don't need). Mac II, IIx Willing to pay up to $2000 for one of these, stripped. Mac IIcx Willing to pay up to $2100 for one of these, stripped. LC Willing to pay up to $1500 for one of these, depends on config. IIsi Willing to pay up to $2000 for one of these. I don't need your monitor, color card, software, printer, external drives, etc. Send mail to: jmp@frame.com or call: 408-946-6743 nights 408-922-2738 days
time@ice.com (Tim Endres) (06/27/91)
In article <1991Jun27.155212.11467@neon.Stanford.EDU>, philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) writes: > ? This is the first time I've heard this - rather the opposite (if > you are upgrading an SE, the SE/30 upgrade is better than most > accelerators because SCSI is faster). I used to own an SE/30, and > I wouldn't take an SE instead unless money was really tight. It > certainly seemed at least as fast as an equivalent IIx/IIcx, > if not faster because it didn't have to talk NuBus to draw the > screen. > > Can you substantiate this claim? (Just interested.) > The SE/30 is SUBSTANTIALLY faster the the SE for me. ------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Endres | time@ice.com ICE Engineering | uupsi!ice.com!time 8840 Main Street | Voice FAX Whitmore Lake MI. 48189 | (313) 449 8288 (313) 449 9208 -------- USENET: A slow moving self parody.....
philip@pescadero.Stanford.EDU (Philip Machanick) (06/27/91)
In article <25495@frame.UUCP>, jmp@jaco.Frame.COM (Jeff Papineau) writes: |> I need a second Mac, and will consider paying a reasonable price for |> any of the following Macs: |> |> SE No SE30's please, that machine is a dog (slow SCSI). ? This is the first time I've heard this - rather the opposite (if you are upgrading an SE, the SE/30 upgrade is better than most accelerators because SCSI is faster). I used to own an SE/30, and I wouldn't take an SE instead unless money was really tight. It certainly seemed at least as fast as an equivalent IIx/IIcx, if not faster because it didn't have to talk NuBus to draw the screen. Can you substantiate this claim? (Just interested.) -- Philip Machanick philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Bryan Manske) (06/28/91)
In article <1991Jun27.155212.11467@neon.Stanford.EDU> philip@pescadero.stanford.edu writes: >In article <25495@frame.UUCP>, jmp@jaco.Frame.COM (Jeff Papineau) writes: >|> I need a second Mac, and will consider paying a reasonable price for >|> any of the following Macs: >|> >|> SE No SE30's please, that machine is a dog (slow SCSI). >? This is the first time I've heard this - rather the opposite (if >you are upgrading an SE, the SE/30 upgrade is better than most >accelerators because SCSI is faster). I used to own an SE/30, and >I wouldn't take an SE instead unless money was really tight. It >certainly seemed at least as fast as an equivalent IIx/IIcx, >if not faster because it didn't have to talk NuBus to draw the >screen. > >Can you substantiate this claim? (Just interested.) >-- >Philip Machanick >philip@pescadero.stanford.edu I'm also interested in substantiating(sp?!?) this claim. I've worked with, and serviced Mac's for over 5 years. The IIcx is my personal favourite for some obscure reasons, but the SE/30 is close behind. (It makes a great luggable unix box.) The SE/30 IIcx and IIx all contain the same ROM's, I believe. I'd like to see an Apple Rep comment on this one. P.S. - I've also seen with "mine own eyes" an SE/30 out-perform a IIci. Strange, but true. Memory management bug in the 'ci' ROM's, says a friend. I'll buy that, considering the source. P.P.S. - What you WON'T find me buying are the three newest machines. (Even a fancy chrome finish can't hide the guts inside.) P.P.P.S (Thou shalt not abandon the coprocessor. Thou shalt not abandon the coprocessor. Thou shalt not abandon the coprocessor. . . . Ad Nausium.) -- Bryan Manske (515) 296-9908 . ...You cross a lawyer with the Engineering Animation, Inc. . Godfather,baby, he'll make you an bryan@pi.eai.iastate.edu . offer you can't understand... #include <caveat_opinion.h> . Don Hendley #include <standard_disclaimer.h> . Gimme What You Got