[comp.sys.amiga.games] Gauntlet II

martijn@cwi.nl (Martijn Roos Lindgreen) (09/12/90)

Hi,

Just started reading this group, so I never have seen anything
about Gauntlet II.

I guess it's possible to play this game with four persons/joysticks,
but how do I connect the two joysticks to the printer interface?


Thanks in advance!


Martijn Roos Lindgreen.
martijn@cwi.nl

tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) (09/13/90)

In article <2112@charon.cwi.nl> martijn@cwi.nl (Martijn Roos Lindgreen) writes:
-Hi,
-
-Just started reading this group, so I never have seen anything
-about Gauntlet II.
-
-I guess it's possible to play this game with four persons/joysticks,
-but how do I connect the two joysticks to the printer interface?
-
-
-Thanks in advance!
-
-
-Martijn Roos Lindgreen.
-martijn@cwi.nl

There is a special hardware gadget you have to buy, that should be
connected to the printer port.

I personally don't think the game is worth the extra money (even though
it's not that expensive), but I think there are several more games that
can make use of the same interface.

I don't recall any of these games being good enough either...

Tommy P.

alberti@cs.umn.edu (Bob Alberti) (09/13/90)

tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) writes:
>There is a special hardware gadget you have to buy, that should be
>connected to the printer port.

>I personally don't think the game [Gauntlet II] is worth the extra money
>(even though
>it's not that expensive), but I think there are several more games that
>can make use of the same interface.

>I don't recall any of these games being good enough either...

Two questions about Gauntlet II?  First, how do you add health during play
(like adding a quarter during a video game?)  I've seen it somewhere, but
my office is such a mess (and it's been a while since I played it), so I
can't recall.  Second, is there any point to the game?  When I was playing
it regularly I went down many, many levels and they were all the same.  In
the arcades, I played regular Gauntlet to level 150, and never saw anything
new, just an endless thud-and-blunder purgatory.
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buffa@sardaigne.inria.fr (Michel Buffa) (09/14/90)

In article <2112@charon.cwi.nl>, martijn@cwi.nl (Martijn Roos Lindgreen)
writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Just started reading this group, so I never have seen anything
> about Gauntlet II.
> 
> I guess it's possible to play this game with four persons/joysticks,
> but how do I connect the two joysticks to the printer interface?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance!

You need a special interface. You can buy it for 10$, or make it yourself:
Here is the schema, posted a few months ago in c.s.a:

REM: this interface is standard and works with GAUNTLET 2, INTERNATIONAL
SOCCER, KICK-OFF 2, TV-SPORT BASKETBALL, PROJECTYLE, TIE-BREAK, HOT-RODS, and
all the more-than-two-players arcade games...

By the way, the best multi-players games are TV-SPORT BASKET, TIE-BREAK and
PROJECTYLE. KICK-OFF 2 is not good with 4 players, and Hot rods is a bad game.

 _____________________________________________________________________________

 _Gangster______________________________________________________Feb. 19, 1989_

 _Corrections by Oosik Man______________________________________Feb. 25, 1989_



Gauntlet II is one of the first games on the Amiga that will allow up to four

people play at one time. The only drawback to this is that you must purchase

a adaptor plug for the parallel port for the third and fourth players to use.

These instructions will allow you to build your own with very few parts and

relatively little money.



This hack is in two parts. One for the 500 and 2000 only, the other for the

1000.



 Parts list:            (All of these are available at Radio Shack)

 ----- -----

 1      DB25 Male (500/2000 Version)

 1      DB25 Female (1000 Version)

 2      Male D 9 pin joystick connectors

 6ft    Wire (In 5" sections)

 Some type of box to put the entire mess in.





Here's how it all goes together:

- More? (Y/N/NS) ns



        Parallel connector (Male DB25 500&2000)

                                1  1  1  1

     1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  0  1  2  3 

   -----------------------------------------

   \ X  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  X  O  X  O /  View looking at front of DB25 

    \ X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  O  /   (X = Connection not used)

      -----------------------------------     (O = Connection used)

      1  1  1  1  1  1  2  2  2  2  2  2

      4  5  6  7  8  9  0  1  2  3  4  5



        Parallel connector (Female DB25 1000)

                                1  1  1  1

     1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  0  1  2  3 

   -----------------------------------------

   \ X  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  O  X  O  X  O /  View looking at front of DB25 

    \ X  X  X  X  X  X  X  X  O  X  X  X  /   (X = Connection not used)

      -----------------------------------     (O = Connection used)

      1  1  1  1  1  1  2  2  2  2  2  2

      4  5  6  7  8  9  0  1  2  3  4  5





 Game connector (Male D9)

      1 2 3 4 5

    -------------                       

    \ O O O O X /       View looking at front of D 9 pin connector

     \ O X O X /                (X = Connection not used)

       -------          (O = Connection used)

       6 7 8 9          (Two of these connectors are used. One for player #3

                         and one for player #4. The connection numbers

                         are exactly the same.)



Use the 5" strips of wire to connect the three connectors:





                                500 & 2000



Parallel Connector    Game connector1 (Player #3)   Game connector2 (Player 4)

------------------    ---------------------------   --------------------------

  Pin 25 (GND)                    8              and            8

  Pin 2  (UP)                                                   1

  Pin 3  (DOWN)                                                 2

  Pin 4  (LEFT)                                                 3

  Pin 5  (RIGHT)                                                4

  Pin 13 (FIRE)                                                 6

  Pin 6  (UP)                     1

  Pin 7  (DOWN)                   2

  Pin 8  (LEFT)                   3

  Pin 9  (RIGHT)                  4

  Pin 11 (FIRE)                   6

------------------    ---------------------------    -------------------------

WARNING!!: Do NOT connect anything to pin #14 on the parallel connector.

           Thats the +5 volts from the Amiga, and is one of the few pins

           that can get you into BIG trouble!!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



                                1000



Parallel Connector    Game connector1 (Player #3)   Game connector2 (Player 4)

------------------    ---------------------------   --------------------------

  Pin 22 (GND)                    8              and            8

  Pin 2  (UP)                                                   1

  Pin 3  (DOWN)                                                 2

  Pin 4  (LEFT)                                                 3

  Pin 5  (RIGHT)                                                4

  Pin 13 (FIRE)                                                 6

  Pin 6  (UP)                     1

  Pin 7  (DOWN)                   2

  Pin 8  (LEFT)                   3

  Pin 9  (RIGHT)                  4

  Pin 11 (FIRE)                   6

------------------    ---------------------------    -------------------------

WARNING!!: Do NOT connect anything to pin #23 on the parallel connector.

           Thats the +5 volts from the Amiga, and is one of the few pins

           that can get you into BIG trouble!!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



 Thats IT!! Connect it all together, check it then plug it in! Add two

joysticks then press [F3] & [F4] to control the two characters on the screen.

 

Have fun!!!!

                         ** Gangster **





I updated the directions when upon looking at my 1000 owners manual I noticed

that the Parallel connecter has som pinout differences including the plus

5 volts!  So I added the info. for the 1000.  I still have not tried this

so I will make no promises.



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ins204h@monu4.cc.monash.edu.au (mr a.j. blanch) (09/16/90)

 Ok so this is not the right News group for retarded questions like the ones
below, tell me if there is a correct News group.

  Here at Monash there are still a few Gauntlet addicts myself included, so I
wanted to ask some questions to see what types of things other Gauntlet addicts
in the states have done.

Like :
What's the deepest level you've seen/been on?
What's the highest health anyone has ever had without inserting coins?
Does the health wrap around at 99999?
Any parcular events, you have seen!
Neat tricks ie. like getting back to lvl 2.

Well I am sure you get my drift.

In fact this is sounding like a News group of its own.

	signed Elminster (Yellow Elf/Valkyrie extraordinair).

mueller@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Carl Mueller) (09/20/90)

In article <4333@monu1.cc.monash.oz> you write:
>  Here at Monash there are still a few Gauntlet addicts myself included, so I
>wanted to ask some questions to see what types of things other Gauntlet addicts
>in the states have done.

I and a friend of mine who is now at Perdue became "gods" of the original
Gauntlet.  If the machine was set properly, either of us alone could play
theoretically forever on a single quarter.  I played for something on the
order of 8 hours on my first game like this.  You can build up several
thousand health, which makes getting through the "bad" boards easy. (Room
full of ghosts?  No problem!)   If the machine was set harder, then we
could still play forever, but we both had to play (the game could be set
to give food proportional to the number of players; for one player it could
be set too low to let you live forever).

I don't recall too much unusual stuff that happened.  It has been a long
time, though.  Building up health takes a lot of time.  I think the most
my friend got was 13,000 or so.  I played with a heavier hand and never
got that high.  We had planned to set up a marathon once, but never got
around to it.  These days it's hard to find an original Gauntlet machine.

The game was in our combined opinion the best arcade game ever made.  The
attention to detail was extraordinary, and the concept revolutionary.
Unfortunately, much of that attention to detail was left out in the home
computer versions.  This is so very annoying.  There are some fairly
glaring errors which would have been simple to fix.  (Take for instance
the clicking sound you hear between all the sound effects).  Oh well.

It's too bad that now that there is an "official" release there likely
won't be any other releases with the bugs fixed.  By the way, has anyone
seen Gauntlet I for the Amiga?  I think I saw it advertised once by a
non-US company, but I don't know if it ever made it over here.  Does it
work "properly"?

-Carl Mueller (mueller@cs.unc.edu)