liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark Lieb <Bacherov>) (10/09/90)
A friend of mine said a while back that he had seen the "coolest" game for the Amiga. (He has a GS) It was A10 Tank Killer. Well, I have never spotted the game, although I have kept an eye out for it. Has anyone else seen this game? Is it all he says it is cracked up to be? I don't really like to order a game unless I have seen it in action first at the local software store. (20$ markup! Who are they kidding?) mark /\\ _ __ ___ /\\ \\ \ \ \ \ / \\ |\/|| | | //___ / \\ \\ \ \ \ \ / /\ \\ |\/|| _| |_ \\_// / /\ \\ \\_\__\____\________\ \_liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu_// // / / / /
timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) (10/10/90)
In article <63477@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark Lieb <Bacherov>) writes: >A friend of mine said a while back that he had seen the "coolest" game >for the Amiga. (He has a GS) It was A10 Tank Killer. Well, I have > >mark > \_liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu_// // / / / / I just picked this one up at AmiExpo for 32.95$. It is a Serria Online game (Liesure Suit Larry....). Anyway, the first good thing about this game is NO copy protection whatsoever. The second thing is that it has the nicest hard disk install program I have ever seen on the amiga (and when it finished it said "have a nice day!"). It does not multitask, but it will return you to you amiga when you exit. Game play, well on a 68000 it is pretty slow, but on a 2630 card this thing is FAST. It is almost too fast in fact, but probably 50/60 frames a second. The ground scenery detail can be changed from "low" to "high" with a little slider you can pop up at any time, as well as being able yo change the window size (small-large...). On a 68000 amiga you can speed the game up by using a smaller window with low detail of objects. In the big window, high detail mode the tanks, trucks, etc. have red USSR stars on the sides, etc. There are hills, rivers, building, but no trees, etc. Anyway, the game play is pretty good, with a variety of weapons and missions. It also has a nice feature of letting you set unlimited ammo/ an or invinciblity so you can really have some fun. It has "digitized" explosions when you destroy things, but be forwarned that the pictures on the back of the box are VGA pictures, so they are considerably nicer than what the amiga is capable of. The graphics are good though, and this is not just a crummy port like some previous serria games. I was planning on doing a little review once I had played it more, but I guess this will have to do. I would have bought it just for the fact that it has a nice hard disk install program, and has NO copy protection. I am going to send in the registration card and rave about these last too things. Summary: pretty good "game", probably not the best flight simulator. -tim
stelmack@screamer.csee.usf.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack) (10/10/90)
My Amiga store (Amazing Computers in Tampa, FL) has it, but I haven't seen it run yet. Check your local dealer... -- Greg Stelmack -- Email: stelmack@sol.csee.usf.edu -- USmail: USF Box 1510, Tampa, FL 33620-1510 -- Amiga: the only way to compute! -- IRAQNOPHOBIA: Nothing a little RAID wouldn't cure!
2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (10/10/90)
In article <611@public.BTR.COM>, timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) writes: > In article <63477@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark Lieb <Bacherov>) writes: >>A friend of mine said a while back that he had seen the "coolest" game >>for the Amiga. (He has a GS) It was A10 Tank Killer. Well, I have >> >>mark >> \_liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu_// // / / / / > > I just picked this one up at AmiExpo for 32.95$. It is a Serria Online > game (Liesure Suit Larry....). Anyway, the first good thing about this game > The graphics are good though, and this is not just a crummy port like some > previous serria games. I was planning on doing a little review once I A Sierra game??? That game was designed by Dynamix (makers of Arctic Fox)... that's why it doesn't look crummy on an Amiga otherwise it would. David Poland 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu (Doug Bischoff) (10/11/90)
In article <611@public.BTR.COM>, timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) says: > >on the back of the box are VGA pictures, so they are considerably >nicer than what the amiga is capable of. Woah!!! Since when is a VGA better than an Amiga? VGA can display 256 colors at once, while the Amiga can handle 4096!!! I don't quite call that better. Am I missing something here? /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | -Doug Bischoff- | *** *** ====--\ | "Beggars can't | | -DEB110 @ PSUVM- | * *** * ==|<>\___ | be users. Just | | -The Black Ring- | *** *** |______\ | give me the damn | | --- "Wheels" --- | *** O O | disk, willya?" | | Corwyn Blakwolfe | T.R.I. ------------- | -"Grendel" Roe | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (10/11/90)
The VGA graphics MS-DOS (yuck) version is good, but the animation it lousy. I hear that the Amiga version still keeps the VGS graphics, but gets the Amiga's excellent animation. -Joseph Hillenburg UUCP: ...iuvax!valnet!joseph ARPA: valnet!joseph@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu INET: joseph@valnet.UUCP
timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) (10/11/90)
In article <26038.2712dd75@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >In article <611@public.BTR.COM>, timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) writes: >> I just picked this one up at AmiExpo for 32.95$. It is a Serria Online >> game (Liesure Suit Larry....). Anyway, the first good thing about this game > >> The graphics are good though, and this is not just a crummy port like some >> previous serria games. I was planning on doing a little review once I > >A Sierra game??? That game was designed by Dynamix (makers of Arctic Fox)... >that's why it doesn't look crummy on an Amiga otherwise it would. > >David Poland "Dynamix - Part of the Sierra Family" - right on the cover of the box. Inside: Sierra Product Catalog, A10 included. Dynamix address is the same as Sierra Online's Customer support line is Sierra's Registration card, standard Sierra Product registration card and even the box is sayas Sierra all over it, in fact it is the same box which came with liesure suit larry. -tim
timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) (10/11/90)
In article <90283.143445DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu> DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu (Doug Bischoff) writes: >In article <611@public.BTR.COM>, timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett >timm@btr.com) says: >> >>on the back of the box are VGA pictures, so they are considerably >>nicer than what the amiga is capable of. > >Woah!!! Since when is a VGA better than an Amiga? VGA can display 256 colors >at once, while the Amiga can handle 4096!!! I don't quite call that better. >Am I missing something here? > Perhaps I should have been more clear: The pictures on the back of the box are VGA pictures, and are considerably nicer than the Amiga is capable of in 16/32 color mode (which is used by this flight simulator, as well as all others available for the amiga, it would not be practical to have a (fast) HAM flight simulator on a 68000 amiga.) The specific things in the box pictures I am refering to are the "digitized" explosions which look great in 256 colors, but the 3 colors versions they use for the amiga version could hardly be classified as digitized. -tim
bryan@intvax.UUCP (Jon R Bryan) (10/11/90)
> A Sierra game??? That game was designed by Dynamix (makers of Arctic Fox)... > that's why it doesn't look crummy on an Amiga otherwise it would. > > David Poland > 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Bought the game yesterday. The first name listed in the credits is Damon Slye, of Arctic Fox and Stellar 7 fame. (Stellar 7 was an amazing 3D Battle Zone type game he wrote for the C=64.) I'm wishing for a 3000 now, since the update rate on my vintage 1000 is a bit slow. :\ -- Jon R. Bryan <=> bryan@intvax.UUCP Sandia National Laboratories Intelligent Machine Principles Division Albuquerque, New Mexico
elaine@hpmtlx.HP.COM ($Elaine_May) (10/12/90)
>>A friend of mine said a while back that he had seen the "coolest" game >>for the Amiga. (He has a GS) It was A10 Tank Killer. Well, I have > I just picked this one up at AmiExpo for 32.95$. It is a Serria Online >game (Liesure Suit Larry....). I believe that A10 Tank Killer was made by Dynamix. They have a new game out for the PC called Red Baron that looks pretty good too.
paulg@frith.uucp (Gregory R Paul) (10/12/90)
In article <3606@intvax.UUCP> bryan@intvax.UUCP (Jon R Bryan) writes: >> A Sierra game??? That game was designed by Dynamix (makers of Arctic Fox)... >> that's why it doesn't look crummy on an Amiga otherwise it would. >> >> David Poland >> 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu > >Bought the game yesterday. The first name listed in the credits is >Damon Slye, of Arctic Fox and Stellar 7 fame. (Stellar 7 was an amazing >3D Battle Zone type game he wrote for the C=64.) >I'm wishing for a 3000 now, since the update rate on my vintage 1000 is >a bit slow. :\ > I used to have Stellar 7 on the old Apple II, really miss that game. -- Greg Paul | Electrical/Computer Engineer in search of a job.. paulg@frith.egr.msu.edu | Case Center Consultant | "So why exactly were these borogroves sysop: Sietch Tabr | so mimsy anyways?"
joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (10/12/90)
Well, Dynamix, if I'm not mistaken, was bought out by Sierra, but Activision still has distribution rights. -Joseph Hillenburg UUCP: ...iuvax!valnet!joseph ARPA: valnet!joseph@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu INET: joseph@valnet.UUCP
helmutn@cip-s07.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Helmut Neumann) (10/12/90)
Hi, ok, you mentioned that the game is FAST on 2630, but my experience is, that it is too fast (i have 3001/32). The program is so lousy programmed, that not even the speed in building the graphics has raised but also the speed of the plane. I simply call the fact, that you reach the end of the runway in two seconds, unrealistic. The flown distances are not calculated, so if your processor is four times faster, you fly four times the way in a second then on a normal Amiga. This makes the game unplayable. LAME ! Bye, Helmut.
brad@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (10/12/90)
Damon Slye wrote Stellar 7 for the Apple ][ as well. So how is A-10? Good?? Bad??? what? are the new missions included or do you have to call the Dynamix BBS for them? Brad Grier
bryan@intvax.UUCP (Jon R Bryan) (10/13/90)
From article <aPoXq2w163w@ersys.uucp>, by ersys!brad@nro.cs.athabascau.ca: > Damon Slye wrote Stellar 7 for the Apple ][ as well. Probably ported to the C=64, then. It was very impressive, and I seem to recall spending only $15 for it, too. > So how is A-10? Good?? Bad??? what? are the new missions included or do you > have to call the Dynamix BBS for them? > > Brad Grier My first impression was good, but I'm a sucker for flight simulators. :) Falcon is "better", I would say. As for new missions, I haven't a clue. -- Jon R. Bryan <=> bryan@intvax.UUCP Sandia National Laboratories Intelligent Machine Principles Division Albuquerque, New Mexico
dve@zooid.UUCP (David Mason) (10/13/90)
DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu (Doug Bischoff) writes: > In article <611@public.BTR.COM>, timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett > timm@btr.com) says: > > > >on the back of the box are VGA pictures, so they are considerably > >nicer than what the amiga is capable of. > > Woah!!! Since when is a VGA better than an Amiga? VGA can display 256 color > at once, while the Amiga can handle 4096!!! I don't quite call that better. > Am I missing something here? > I don't know of any games (especially arcade type) that have the actual game play in 4096 colour mode. It would be too slow. Relax, though.. the VGA can display more colours but it's not too fast at it so VGA games tend to have as few objects as possible moving on the screen (and as small as possible).
dve@zooid.UUCP (David Mason) (10/13/90)
paulg@frith.uucp (Gregory R Paul) writes: > I used to have Stellar 7 on the old Apple II, really miss that game. From what I hear, the new updated version is on it's way for the Amiga. It's already out for the PC, and looks and sounds great.
2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (10/14/90)
In article <oPFyq1w163w@zooid.UUCP>, dve@zooid.UUCP (David Mason) writes: > I don't know of any games (especially arcade type) that have the actual game > play in 4096 colour mode. It would be too slow. > > Relax, though.. the VGA can display more colours but it's not too fast at it > so VGA games tend to have as few objects as possible moving on the screen > (and as small as possible). There are too arcade games written in HAM mode! Pioneer Plague and Knights of the Crystallion are two of them. (and both are quite fast). David Poland 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu