doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) (11/17/90)
Can someone give me a hint for Starglider 2? Basically everything in the game has seemed very straightforward, none of that "we're out to get you by setting you impossible illogical puzzles"; I've explored everywhere, and got the neutron bomb. But I can't use it, apparently because I haven't found the Energy Cube Launcher. But I've looked everywhere, where can it be??? Thanks, Doug Doug Merritt doug@eris.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!eris!doug) or uunet.uu.net!crossck!dougm
2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (11/17/90)
In article <1990Nov16.171935.29076@agate.berkeley.edu>, doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) writes: > Can someone give me a hint for Starglider 2? Basically everything in > the game has seemed very straightforward, none of that "we're out to get you > by setting you impossible illogical puzzles"; I've explored everywhere, > and got the neutron bomb. > > But I can't use it, apparently because I haven't found the Energy Cube > Launcher. But I've looked everywhere, where can it be??? > > Thanks, > Doug > Doug Merritt doug@eris.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!eris!doug) > or uunet.uu.net!crossck!dougm The (Space Station?) your looking for is out on outer fringes of the solar system. Its close by the outermost planet. Out there you will see what appears to a planet but you can pass through (an illusion). Its very close nearby here. It takes a little searching but you'll find it. When you do, nuke it and engage the stardrive and get the hell out! David Poland 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) (11/19/90)
In article <26979.2744284e@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2flntopaz@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: > >The (Space Station?) your looking for is out on outer fringes of the >solar system. Its close by the outermost planet. Out there you will >see what appears to a planet but you can pass through (an illusion). >Its very close nearby here. It takes a little searching but you'll >find it. When you do, nuke it and engage the stardrive and get >the hell out! Thanks for trying to help, but that's not the problem. I had already tried that, but the neutron bomb won't launch. I was assuming that I needed the energy cubes for knocking out various defenses when I first posted; now I hear that I can do it with just the regular rockets & bouncing bombs, so I'll try that next (and perhaps win?) But now I'm obsessed with locating those d*mn energy cubes, even if you don't *have* to have them. I put in all this time looking for them, it'd be really nice to find them! I've grabbed Emma-2's lots of times but no energy cubes as yet. Sigh. Doug Doug Merritt doug@eris.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!eris!doug) or uunet.uu.net!crossck!dougm
J56QC@CUNYVM.BITNET (11/19/90)
Ok..everybody out in net land.here is the ultimate cheat in starglider 2 when t e games starts .. make sure that the cross hair sight is ON... then press the DEL key ...next type this : WERE ON A MISSION FROM GOD 1 K : you will have e ery weapon possible.. and to replenish your wewapons type K .... happy hunting! :)
bscott@isis.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) (11/20/90)
In article <1990Nov19.030639.15904@agate.berkeley.edu> doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) writes: >>find it. When you do, nuke it and engage the stardrive and get >>the hell out! Actually, you better ALREADY be in Stardrive mode or you won't get far enough away before it blows. Just be screaming toward it, fire when you get the chance, and KEEP GOING - don't even take the time to turn around. >Thanks for trying to help, but that's not the problem. I had already >tried that, but the neutron bomb won't launch. It won't launch if you haven't destroyed all the little sentinel thingamabobs. But it says this in the info window. You need the missiles to kill the sattelites off, BTW. >I was assuming that I needed the energy cubes for knocking out various >defenses when I first posted; now I hear that I can do it with just the >regular rockets & bouncing bombs, so I'll try that next (and perhaps win?) The missiles are more powerful than the Energy Cubes. The bombs are more powerful than the missiles, even. The Time cubes (as they are more accurately called) are just a more powerful rapid-fire weapon to replace your wimpy default lasers. Anyway, I used to have an IFF diagram of the whole solar system with tons of hints on where everything was, but it's buried somewhere in my files. You must pick up an Emma2 on a certain, specific moon of Milliway. Any on the correct moon will do, and I suspect that it has to be the first one in the game you pick up. Anyway, now for my question - by using the cheat mode I got everything in the game and then sat waiting for them to complete the Space Station. They finally put all the pieces together (it took almost an hour!) but I kinda expected something to happen once it was finished. So I waited a while longer, but nothing - so, I nuked the station. They just started building it again. What is supposed to happen when you finish the game? How do you finish the game? Does the game simply not end in cheat mode? Do you have to go through it all by hand to get something out of the end? I don't have that kind of free time any more! . <<<<Infinite K>>>> -- |Ben Scott, professional goof-off and consultant at The Raster Image, Denver| |FIDO point address 1:104/421.2, bscott@isis.cs.du.edu, or BBS (303)424-9831| |"Spent 4 hours burying the cat!" "Four || The Raster Image IS responsible | | hours?!?" "It wouldn't keep still..." || for everything I say! | *Amiga* |
MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu (11/20/90)
Some nifty stuff to try: - Turn on the cheat mode, then stardrive right out of the solar system. The planets will all disappear behind you... and then re-appear in front of you, with the difference that none of them can be landed on. As well, some odd objects will be seen drifting through space. - Fly into a tunnel. Get the rear external view. Now hit the 'zoom out' key... and you can look at the tunnels from the OUTSIDE. Steering can be kind of challenging from this angle, though. - Beam up space whales and deposit them on the planet's surface, in tunnels, etc... - Beam up various Egron aircraft, buildings, and cars and carry them into space. If you shoot down an aircraft in open space, you'll crash the game and force it to start over. Anyone else have favorite Starglider II tricks? /Mark "Remixed for Common Household Appliances" Sachs - MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu\ |DISCLAIMER? You've GOT to be kidding, right? || // AMIGA || | | "Haven't they heard we won the war? || \X/ Power || | \== "What do they keep on fighting for?" -- B. Joel, LENINGRAD =============/
jlange@oracle.com (Jim Lange) (11/21/90)
In article <1990Nov16.171935.29076@agate.berkeley.edu> doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) writes:
I...got the neutron bomb.
But I can't use it, apparently because I haven't found the Energy Cube
Launcher. But I've looked everywhere, where can it be???
You don't need the Energy Cube Launcher. However, you get it when you pick up
the nuclear physicist (Dr. Taymer?--it's been a while since I've played) and
then GO BACK to the base on the moon where he lives. Remember when you first
visit and they say he has something for you? Once you find him, you must bring
him back to his lab so he can install the Cube Launcher. Since you've already
delivered him to the scientists who are building the bomb, you are out of luck
(unless, of course, you want to start over). The cube launcher was a letdown
for me; it's like a super-laser, twice as powerful, but also using twice the
energy! From the description in the book, I was expecting everything in view
to explode as it crashed into its time-delayed self.
If you've delivered everything the scientists need (they may tell you they have
made the bomb before it is ready), including the good doctor, AND you have
destroyed the sentries protecting the station AND the reflectors are out of
commission AND you are using the foreslung (sp?) AND selected the neutron bomb
weapon.......you should have no problem.
Starglider II is my all-time favorite game, although there are a few things I
would improve (trading items for other items or repairs at the moon bases
seemed pointless), and the ending was anti-climactic. I still like playing
once in a while just to explore and see what I can do (like capturing a space
whale and releasing it on Vulcan, or destroying _everything_ on the surface of
a planet--just to see if I can).
Good Luck!
Jim Lange
Oracle Corporation
P.S. Has anyone ever seen a Space Ray (other than in the object preview)?bscott@isis.cs.du.edu (Ben Scott) (11/24/90)
In article <90324.100538MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu writes: >- Turn on the cheat mode, then stardrive right out of the >solar system. The planets will all disappear behind you... >and then re-appear in front of you, with the difference that >none of them can be landed on. As well, some odd objects >will be seen drifting through space. I did this long ago but didn't try to land on anything. So I tried again tonight, and sure enough, you're right. The "odd objects" are indeed odd - I tractored one of them and the computer identified it as (get this) "Heap of old junk"! It didn't look like anything in particular. There are also proximity mines and rods of some kind which you can't get a lock on but can crash into. >- Fly into a tunnel. Get the rear external view. Now hit the >'zoom out' key... and you can look at the tunnels from the >OUTSIDE. Steering can be kind of challenging from this angle, though. Not sure what you mean by this - there is no zoom out key. At least, it doesn't work, and yes I did buy the game and am working from the original disk. Another thing which has never worked for me is the Rotate Object in Tractor buttons. Does this work for other people? >- Beam up space whales and deposit them on the planet's surface, >in tunnels, etc... This is just mean... >- Beam up various Egron aircraft, buildings, and cars and carry >them into space. If you shoot down an aircraft in open space, >you'll crash the game and force it to start over. This was the most interesting bit - I tried it, and the status line reported "Time Warp A" and an error number, then "Hit Any Key" and some random (but ordinary) messages thereafter, all the while the screen was going nuts. Hitting a key resulted in a nifty fadeup to the initial configuration and view, on Apogee. Note that one of the few aircraft you can pick up on the planet is the Large Troop Transport. I sometimes have a little fun picking up those speedy little Emma 2s and letting them out in space - they slow down but still drive about. However, more fun can be had flying around inside the sun or Milliway in cheat mode. This is the only place I've come across the Space Rays. I've also found the "Large Bird" lurking in the sun. Has anyone managed to grab on to the little boxes the sky trucks drop when you shoot them? I've never been able to catch 'em before they hit the ground. Some more fun things to try - tractor on to a stationary object, then turn away and begin to apply thrust - hit M - apply some more thrust to balance - hit M - pretty soon, you're flying at full thrust just to keep from being pulled into the object. If you grab onto a dome, and you cut off the thrust or hit M once too often you can end up inside, where you are destroyed. It is also possible to have things tow you around with careful use of the M key. Has anyone ever tried picking up Bouncing Bombs after you've released them? . <<<<Infinite K>>>> (does anyone know where to find the Icarus pilot couch, besides the obvious place? I've found a repair depot that offers to trade a case of Nuclear Fuel for it...) -- |Ben Scott, professional goof-off and consultant at The Raster Image, Denver| |FIDO point address 1:104/421.2, bscott@isis.cs.du.edu, or BBS (303)424-9831| |"Spent 4 hours burying the cat!" "Four || The Raster Image IS responsible | | hours?!?" "It wouldn't keep still..." || for everything I say! | *Amiga* |
doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) (11/27/90)
In article <JLANGE.90Nov20135404@ap1seq.oracle.com> jlange@oracle.com (Jim Lange) writes: > >P.S. Has anyone ever seen a Space Ray (other than in the object preview)? Yes; they're in interstellar space, where you usually find the odd space whale. But in a different compass direction; go "left" relative to the gas giant at the start of the game (whatever compass point that is). >visit and they say he has something for you? Once you find him, you must bring >him back to his lab so he can install the Cube Launcher. I've done that but gotten no cube launcher. I notice a possible correlation, though...once, and only once, his lab told me where he was. This was when I was first getting the hang of the game. Ever since then, it hasn't said anything so helpful; they don't say where he is. Maybe that's (somehow) why he doesn't give me a cube launcher when I take him back to his lab/depot? But I don't know what I've been doing differently; any ideas? >made the bomb before it is ready), including the good doctor, AND you have >destroyed the sentries protecting the station AND the reflectors are out of >commission AND you are using the foreslung (sp?) AND selected the neutron bomb I don't know what a "foreslung" by any spelling is; I'll try the rest of that once more. Thanks for the comments. Doug Doug Merritt doug@eris.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!eris!doug) or uunet.uu.net!crossck!dougm
doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) (11/27/90)
In article <1990Nov24.105718.21833@isis.cs.du.edu> bscott@isis.UUCP (Ben Scott) writes: > >"Heap of old junk"! It didn't look like anything in particular. There are >also proximity mines and rods of some kind which you can't get a lock on but >can crash into. Those are out there in regular play mode, too, not just in cheat mode. I still can't recall the compass directions, but relative to flying toward the gas giant, this junk is to the left, and to the rear in "interstellar" space. Space rays to the left, and of course whales and egrons straight ahead. >disk. Another thing which has never worked for me is the Rotate Object >in Tractor buttons. Does this work for other people? Doesn't work for me either. >>- Beam up space whales and deposit them on the planet's surface, >>in tunnels, etc... > >This is just mean... Ah, but at least they don't blow up when you release the tractor beam, unlike so many other objects. >(does anyone know where to find the Icarus pilot couch, besides the obvious >place? I've found a repair depot that offers to trade a case of Nuclear >Fuel for it...) ***SPOILER*** Do you mean that the depot is the "obvious place"?? Anyway, besides the depot, it can be found on Aldos. Flat diamonds can be found on Vista, which took me a very long time to notice. Any objects the depots will trade for can be found somewhere else. Doug Doug Merritt doug@eris.berkeley.edu (ucbvax!eris!doug) or uunet.uu.net!crossck!dougm
jlange@oracle.com (Jim Lange) (11/29/90)
In article <1990Nov26.182650.16688@agate.berkeley.edu> doug@eris.berkeley.edu (Doug Merritt) writes: >disk. Another thing which has never worked for me is the Rotate Object >in Tractor buttons. Does this work for other people? Doesn't work for me either. I have used it successfully. Try it on an object that is not already moving like a petrified tree or an Egron Mini-Rocket. Ah, but at least they don't blow up when you release the tractor beam, unlike so many other objects. I had [what I thought was] a great idea to carry spare asteroids to use for refuelling in deep space. Unfortunately, after being jetisoned, they blow up immediately when tractored--even though quite stable when initial collected. >(does anyone know where to find the Icarus pilot couch, besides the obvious >place? I've found a repair depot that offers to trade a case of Nuclear >Fuel for it...) ***SPOILER*** Do you mean that the depot is the "obvious place"?? Anyway, besides the depot, it can be found on Aldos. The only place I've seen the pilot couch is after the Icarus blows up, but it is not listed in inventory so cannot be traded (unless you self destruct while in the depot--haven't tried that). Nuclear fuel is also jetisoned by the blue and grey pirate ships when destroyed, but move away very quickly. To tractor it you must chase it and carefully match its speed. Jim Lange Oracle Corporation