cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu (12/29/90)
Greetings from the depth of Mt. Anaias: I've just started with DMII--CSB. And I'd be grateful for any help, hints, cheats, whatever, that I can get my hands on. When the game first dumps you on the first level in the dark, is there ANY way to be prepared for/avoid those stupid worms? I ALWAYS getzapped right away, poisoned, and lose a man or two to poisoning with no way to cure] it. I can't find any flasks to create potions in, so I end up wandering around till I find an Altar of Rebirth. By then, I'm totally lost and run into all kinds of baddies. What's the secret to eliminating the midget who casts those really wicked lightening spells--the guy near the knight behind the iron gate? I got the onyx key from him and a ring. and what about killing those knights? Theylook like they've been on a steady diet of iron and steroids. Not to mention those big brown dragon things.....they get me every time. One of the dragons was guarding a set of bones.....not a set I recognized. Do I need to take these with me? Can they be brought back to life? What I would *really* like is a set of maps like for the old set. Yes, I know it's cheating, but I DON'T CARE. I don't even know how many levels there are in this version..... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | werjun@large | I'm so sick of hearing about Elvis. | + cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu + I wish he was dead! + | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
mndaily@ux.acs.umn.edu (Linda Seebach) (12/29/90)
In article <400.277bc4ba@vger.nsu.edu> cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu writes: >I've just started with DMII--CSB. And I'd be grateful for any help, hints, >cheats, whatever, that I can get my hands on. I would too... By now. Re: Worms: Near the beginning: Back up a bit right away. Cast light spells. Start fireballing. Do *NOT* step on the space with the torch/dagger stuff. That summons more worms. As if you need them. Great way to start, ain't it? >What's the secret to eliminating the midget who casts those really wicked >lightening spells--the guy near the knight behind the iron gate? I got the >onyx key from him and a ring. Midgets are the same as in DM I - they're the wizard dudes from the rat level. >and what about killing those knights? Theylook like they've been on a steady >diet of iron and steroids. >Not to mention those big brown dragon things.....they get me every time. In both cases: Every successful kill so far in DMII has been throught pit hopping. Remember: If you land on a monster, someone's got to die. At least they're worth treasure. Save before doing this, though, in case you miss. >One of the dragons was guarding a set of bones.....not a set I recognized. >Do I need to take these with me? Can they be brought back to life? I don't know if you need them, but an alter of vi will not restore them. At least, not unless there's a space in your group. I may eventually play a three character group, or try it with one dead person, to see. It may be that they are "generic bones" - dump them on the altar, and one dead person comes back. >What I would *really* like is a set of maps like for the old set. Yes, I know >it's cheating, but I DON'T CARE. I don't even know how many levels there are >in this version..... I think there are about 10. I would appreciate maps too. There is a set at abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov, but they include no objects, or hints. I.e., what good does it do to tell me a wall may dissappear if I don't know how to *make* it disappear? Oh, and if I'm gonna bitch: Is it just me, or was it really *stupid* to move the keypad movement keys? Being a sheer-reflex typist, I tend to get screwed up by that rather a lot. I thought the old ones worked fine grumble grumble. >| werjun@large | I'm so sick of hearing about Elvis. | Aren't we all. --SeebS-- -- mndaily is the Minnesota Daily, and does not speak for the U of M. Linda Seebach does not speak for the Daily. --SeebS-- does not speak for Linda. Marcel Marceau speaks for no one.
cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu (12/29/90)
>>What I would *really* like is a set of maps like for the old set. Yes, I know >>it's cheating, but I DON'T CARE. I don't even know how many levels there are >>in this version..... > I think there are about 10. > I would appreciate maps too. There is a set at abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov, but they > include no objects, or hints. I.e., what good does it do to tell me a wall > may dissappear if I don't know how to *make* it disappear? I know about the set of maps that allegedly exists there, but they seem to be eminently unaccessible at the moment. I *did* find a map for the prison level, for those folks who want to be just the right champions from the new game. But if offers nothing constructive....not even a stairway down that will avoid those worms. > > Oh, and if I'm gonna bitch: Is it just me, or was it really *stupid* to move > the keypad movement keys? Being a sheer-reflex typist, I tend to get screwed > up by that rather a lot. I thought the old ones worked fine grumble grumble. > I cannot empathize with yu on the keyboard commands; the mouse is my preferred method and/or tool of locomotion and self-destruction here. As a matter of fact, I *still* try to mouse my way through Usenet......sigh.... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | werjun@large | I'm so sick of hearing about Elvis. | + cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu + I wish he was dead! + | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
arxt@quads.uchicago.edu (patrick palmer) (12/30/90)
In article <2965@ux.acs.umn.edu> mndaily@ux.acs.umn.edu (Linda Seebach) writes: >In article <400.277bc4ba@vger.nsu.edu> cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu writes: >>I've just started with DMII--CSB. And I'd be grateful for any help, hints, >>cheats, whatever, that I can get my hands on. > >I would too... By now. Here's a hint: My new favorite spells are OH VEN and DES VEN. >>and what about killing those knights? Theylook like they've been on a steady >>diet of iron and steroids. >>Not to mention those big brown dragon things.....they get me every time. >In both cases: Every successful kill so far in DMII has been throught pit >hopping. Remember: If you land on a monster, someone's got to die. At least >they're worth treasure. Save before doing this, though, in case you miss. That works, but it's a pain finding your way back from the pit. Knights don't seem to mind OH VEN, but I don't know whether they are stupid or just poison resistant. Dragons will step away from poison clouds unless they are frozen by a magic box. >>What I would *really* like is a set of maps... What I would like is to know where the skeleton keys are!
cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu (12/30/90)
> > Here's a hint: My new favorite spells are OH VEN and DES VEN. I hae been working with the poison spells, and plan to wreak death and destruction tonight. I never found the Freeze Life boxes much use in the old game, but it looks like they will be VERY handy this game. >>In both cases: Every successful kill so far in DMII has been throught pit >>hopping. Remember: If you land on a monster, someone's got to die. At least >>they're worth treasure. Save before doing this, though, in case you miss. > > That works, but it's a pain finding your way back from the pit. Knights > don't seem to mind OH VEN, but I don't know whether they are stupid or > just poison resistant. Dragons will step away from poison clouds unless > they are frozen by a magic box. See above..... > >>>What I would *really* like is a set of maps... I got my maps; they are printing right this very second. Nice ones, looks like---color, and with a legend that tells me what pitfalls (NPI) are where. They are laid out on a gridwork that shows distances. Each section of each level is colorcoded;i.e., KU sections are one color, NETA ssections are another color, etc. I can go at this game with a little more optimism now. > > What I would like is to know where the skeleton keys are! I have found about 3 keys.....don't remember what types. I'll try to make a note of where I found them (and any others) and post it here. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | werjun@large | I'm so sick of hearing about Elvis. | + cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu + I wish he was dead! + | | | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
marler@evax.arl.utexas.edu (T. Gordon Marler) (12/30/90)
Yeah, why DID they move the cursor keys? Makes it incredibly difficult to change over, and I keep backing up into things when I want to go forward... Anyway, has anyone confirmed the method of getting the Firestaff? I still wonder if the text you type in should include the word SMITES instead of SMITHES as I saw in the cheat list. Any info on this?
usenet@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Usenet News Administration) (01/01/91)
And someone on Compuserve said that he has a European magazine that published that cheat as a joke on April fools day. It doesn't work on the Amiga version and I don't know if it works on the ST version. I haven't personally verified this by trying to type "SMITES" -- I only tried "SMITHES" then I gave up. Jason Freund From: freund@sakura.ucdavis.edu (Jason Freund) Path: sakura!freund
cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu (01/01/91)
In article <8092@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, usenet@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Usenet News Administration) writes: > And someone on Compuserve said that he has a European magazine that > published that cheat as a joke on April fools day. It doesn't work on > the Amiga version and I don't know if it works on the ST version. > I haven't personally verified this by trying to type "SMITES" -- I only > tried "SMITHES" then I gave up. I have tried that both ways, to no avail. NEither SMITES nor SMITHES worked for me. And the dragon was darned hard to kill to boot! However, he did leave behind some real handy weapons, and dragon steak will keep the guys going for a long, long time. My worst problems have been running out of water, and not being able to go down a level when I wanted. Often, I get transported back up to where I have already been, and have to work my way down again, OR start over with a reboot. Does anyone out there have a way to make invisible walls disappear? Do far, I've been 'finding' them by running into them and falling through. I do know that going through a wall at a position other than forward is sometimes effective. Jean "Let them what don't want none have memories of not getting any." --Brother Dave
tj@pons.cis.ohio-state.edu (Todd R Johnson) (01/02/91)
In article <410.278005d0@vger.nsu.edu> cs170703644@vger.nsu.edu writes: >>Does anyone out there have a way to make invisible walls disappear? Do far, >>I've been 'finding' them by running into them and falling through. I do know >>that going through a wall at a position other than forward is sometimes >>effective. Hint: If you were really stuck in a dungeon with fake walls how would you find them? The same technique works in CSB. You can also use the map scroll and the appropriate mapping spell. ---Todd -- Todd R. Johnson tj@cis.ohio-state.edu Laboratory for AI Research The Ohio State University