freund@sakura.ucdavis.edu (Jason Freund) (06/05/90)
Dungeon Master 2, (Chaos Strikes Back) is exactly like Dungeon Master 1.
It has 4 levels, each level can be solved 4 different ways. The
interface and graphics are the same -- although there are many new
monsters and weapons, doortypes, special items, etc. Basically, the
game picks up where DM 1 left off. For example, there is a dragon on
level one. When the game starts off, you have an option to use your old
DM 1 characters (but naked and unarmed) or choose new characters. There
is a character editor disk that comes with the game that basically lets
you edit the picture of your character. Many cute character pictures
are available on CIS in the Atari ST forum of Calvin & Hobbes, Snoopy,
etc. Last I heard from FTL, DM2 will be avail for the Amiga late this
year (like Nov-Dec). I've been looking forward to its release since I
finished DM1 the second time, about 6 months ago.
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\_\/ Amiga cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (07/12/90)
First, the obligatory advertisement: "Tired of mapping every twist and turn in Dungeon Master? Wish you could read those strange maps you drew? Forgot the invisibility spell? How much would you pay for maps of all 14 levels? $10, $20, $30? Don't answer now you also get a complete list of spells ? Now how much would you pay? Act now and we'll throw in the names and attributes of everyone in the Hall of Champions! All the for only $5, yes that is just $5! For a free sample and a map of level 1 send a stamped, self addressesed envelope to : Chuck McManis, 1141 Vasquez Ave, Sunnyvale CA, 94086." And now, on to the spoilers : In article <80286@srcsip.UUCP> kovach@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Pete Kovach) writes: >1) How do you get through the force field of level two which has the chest >behind it? You don't go through it, instead you go through the door marked "none shall pass". Simply give it a good wack with a sword. >2) How do you kill the rock/timber creatures on level three? Dropping them >down the pit doesn't work because they come back through the teleporter. >Hitting them seems totally useless with club/sword/shuriken soooo - how do >I kill the suckers?? (fireball, etc does not seem to work either). They can be killed, you just have to keep hitting them. When you get more hit points you can really build up your ninja's by kicking them to death. So far I've never managed to kill anything by yelling at it. Another neat trick is to lead them under a closable door and then close the door on them. They are more susecptible to fireballs when they rear up to bite you. Watch out for poision! -- --Chuck McManis Sun Microsystems uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: <none> Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "I tell you this parrot is bleeding deceased!"
sutherla@qtp.ufl.edu (Scott Sutherland) (07/12/90)
In article <138794@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes: >First, the obligatory advertisement: > "Tired of mapping every twist and turn in Dungeon Master? > Wish you could read those strange maps you drew? Forgot the > invisibility spell? How much would you pay for maps > of all 14 levels? $10, $20, $30? Don't answer now you > also get a complete list of spells ? Now how much > would you pay? Act now and we'll throw in the names and > attributes of everyone in the Hall of Champions! All > the for only $5, yes that is just $5! For a free sample > and a map of level 1 send a stamped, self addressesed > envelope to : Chuck McManis, 1141 Vasquez Ave, Sunnyvale > CA, 94086." > Interviews with actual owners of the DM Maps: ** Some of these people are portrayed by out of work actors who had nothing better to do, but the text is from actual test cases. :*) Bob, Danville Texas: "Couldn't have finished DM without 'em." Lisa, Colon, Ohio: "Great! Fantastic! Check them out!" Bif, LA: "Way cool dudes! Like, totally radical like." Billy-Joe Donniker, Somewhere in Louisiana: "They're maps, alright. But I caint find N'orlans on it!" (That's Cajun for New Orleans ;^)) Scott Sutherland, Gainesville, Florida: "These maps are invaluable to any DM player who hates to spend all his time mapping and then worrying about not starving. I highly recommend the $5 investment. Hey, you paid over $30 for the game, and these maps allow you to concentrate on playing the game and solving the puzzles, not the mapping (unless you are a masochist and really enjoy mapping!!). They DO NOT spoil the game in the least. Highly recommend them!" Scott Sutherland sutherla@qtp.ufl.edu
kovach@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Pete Kovach) (07/13/90)
Is there a new version of the DM HD backup utility program "dmpatch.lzh". It is really irritating having to worry if the floppy will die since I can have no backup and the only version of dmpatch I have seen does not work on the game I bought a few months back. The DM files are named and organized differently from earlier versions sold - i.e. not a simple name change problem. If anyone can help me save this to HD, I would greatly appreciate it. Peter Kovach Sig - We don't need no stinking sig!
cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (07/14/90)
Don't look if you don't want to know ... In a previous article (Edgar LeBel) writes: >I have almost finished level 3 and have started level 4 of Dungeon Master, >but am stuck. I found 4 gold keys, a rabbit's foot and a Ra key on 3, but >the Ra key does not open the last door (by the stairs down to level 4). >Did I miss something on level 3? I found nothing in the matrix other than >an arrow and food, so I suspect I might have missed something there. I did >not try to open the door with the gem-shaped hole next to it, since I assume >I need something to fit the hole. Level 3 == the level with the Matrix, Vault etc? (they are on my maps) The Matrix has three things in it. The Ra Key's are "special" you will need them later on. You say "by the stairs down to level 4" on level three ? The key for all doors on level three are on level 3. There are "secret" chambers in all of the named mazes on level 3 except for the Monster Room (which just regenerates purple cavemen and which you get to practice on. Note : Don't leave the door open to this maze when you leave or they will be all over the place when you come back through. >I am also out of food. Is there a spell to create food? No, but many creatures are edible. You are about to find some on level 4 they are the "purple worms". You can also eat screamers and rats. -- --Chuck McManis Sun Microsystems uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: <none> Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "I tell you this parrot is bleeding deceased!"
kms@uncecs.edu (Ken Steele) (07/20/90)
In article <1081@orange9.qtp.ufl.edu>, sutherla@qtp.ufl.edu (Scott Sutherland) writes: > In article <138794@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes: > >First, the obligatory advertisement: > > "Tired of mapping every twist and turn in Dungeon Master? > > Wish you could read those strange maps you drew? Forgot the > > invisibility spell? How much would you pay for maps > > of all 14 levels? $10, $20, $30? Don't answer now you > > also get a complete list of spells ? Now how much > > would you pay? Act now and we'll throw in the names and > > attributes of everyone in the Hall of Champions! All > > the for only $5, yes that is just $5! For a free sample > > and a map of level 1 send a stamped, self addressesed > > envelope to : Chuck McManis, 1141 Vasquez Ave, Sunnyvale > > CA, 94086." > > And then Scott recommends them highly as helping but not spoiling the puzzles of the game > Scott Sutherland > sutherla@qtp.ufl.edu How do the maps/info compare to the set found on Fish 240? -- Ken Steele Dept. of Psychology kms@ecsvax.bitnet Mars Hill College kms@ecsvax.uncecs.edu Mars Hill, NC 28754 {some big name site}!mcnc!ecsvax!kms
kovach@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Pete Kovach) (08/07/90)
__________________________ | : /F | | ## : D | A = pressure plate - DOES NOTHING | : | B = Pit |_____ | | C = Pressure plate to open pit |~~~~~~~~~ ____ | and door D | force { | | | D = door to room ## | field { | E | | E = Pressure plate to close pit | { |___| | and door D _______|~~~~~~~~~ | F = lever to turn force field on/off | U button : door U = button to close pit B | _____ ______ _____ : to Force Field pops you to A | | A | | B | | C | : room | |___| |____| |___| : |___________________________: Explanation 1 - >Ok, it's pretty simple actually. Stand on E, throw something onto the >force field so that it will land on A (a dead torch works well) and >when you throw it step to the right at the same time. The torch will >land on A, opening D and since you aren't on E it will stay open. Well, this sure DOES NOT WORK! Nothing except our characters weight on C, not A, opens this door. A does nothing at all!!!!!!!!!! Explanation 2 - >But it was worth it ;). Face the switch (and be prepared to hit the down >arrow on your keypad). Hit the switch and then take a step back just >after. I think you have about .2 seconds delay. You will be transported >to the button which closes the hole in the floor but the force field will >be off. I tried that in desperation and it worked. OK fine, I am back at A. So what???? Only C opens the door. If I stand at B and set something on C, I fall in a pit. I cannot stand on E and set something on C, because E closes the door. IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THE FIELD IS OFF - I STILL CANNOT ACTIVATE C WITHOUT THEN BEING FORCED ONTO E. A DOES NOT OPEN THE DOOR!!!!! Since everyone says it does, does anyone know what happened that makes it not work for me???? If it did open the door/gate, sure enough I could just walk over and go in door D. HEEELLPPPPPPP from someone who knows this problem - I hope this is not a glitch in my version of the program - I just bought it two months ago or less. What does the key that is in this room open? I assume it is the door down the way because that is the only keyed door I haven't opened. If it is, what is in there - Is it worth all the trouble???????? Thanks! Peter Kovach Sig - We don't need no stinking sig!
mwtilden@watmath.waterloo.edu (M.W.Tilden, Hardware) (08/08/90)
In article <85611@srcsip.UUCP> kovach@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Pete Kovach) writes: > > __________________________ >| : /F | >| ## : D | A = pressure plate - DOES NOTHING >| : | B = Pit >|_____ | | C = Pressure plate to open pit > |~~~~~~~~~ ____ | and door D > | force { | | | D = door to room ## > | field { | E | | E = Pressure plate to close pit > | { |___| | and door D >_______|~~~~~~~~~ | F = lever to turn force field on/off >| U button : door U = button to close pit B >| _____ ______ _____ : to Force Field pops you to A >| | A | | B | | C | : room >| |___| |____| |___| : >|___________________________: > Stand facing /F. Set switch so force field is on behind you. Simultaneously flick /F with the mouse while using the keyboard down arrow to step backward. If timed right, you will teleport to A before the field collapses. You then just press U and C and pick up ##. This is the solution. If you're having trouble, try risking falling down a pit to get to a better position. Is all. -- Mark Tilden: _-_-_-__--__--_ /(glitch!) M.F.C.F Hardware Design Lab. -_-___ | \ /\/ U of Waterloo. Ont. Can, N2L-3G1 |__-_-_-| \/ (519) - 885 - 1211 ext.2454, "MY OPINIONS, YOU HEAR!? MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"
edgar@csri.toronto.edu (Edgar LeBel) (08/16/90)
A while back, someone asked what good is using the "Battle Cry" attack option in Dungeon Master. I discovered that on level 10 you can scare off the giant scorpions by yelling at them a lot. I had my master priest yell when he ran out of ammunition, and the scorpion backed off, so I followed it and kept yelling, and it kept retreating. Now, a question. If you fall through the invisible pits on level 11 you are in a room with no exits except for one blocked by fire. How do you get past this thing? Hobie Orris
wolf@shumv1.ncsu.edu (Brian Carroll) (08/19/90)
In article <1990Aug16.085436.19117@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> edgar@csri.toronto.edu (Edgar LeBel) writes: >Now, a question. If you fall through the invisible pits on level 11 you are >in a room with no exits except for one blocked by fire. How do you get past >this thing? Try using the spell Des Ew. It may take more than one shot, though. Hope this helps. Brian Carroll wolf@shumv1.ncsu.edu
a481@mindlink.UUCP (J.D. Frazer) (08/25/90)
* * SPOILER!! * * The Firestaff has two functions that must be used to trap Lord Chaos. I believe they're called FLUX and FUSE. Every time you cast a FLUX, a yellow magical cage appears in the space in front of you. Chaos really hates staying in these, so he'll move out of one if he can. FUSE is what you have to do to trap Chaos in a FLUX. Problem is, he'll back out of a FLUX everytime you FUSE him. Real pain in the butt. There are two methods I can think of to trap him. Cast a whole pile of FLUXes, maybe 3 deep by 3 wide with Chaos in the middle. You can step into a FLUX with no problem. FUSE the FLUX that Chaos is in and he's trapped....game over. This is how I did it. Seems that a plethora of FLUXes right next to each other will result in the FUSE spell fusing the whole lot of 'em. I may be wrong. The only other method is to trap him into one of those little corners on the 14th level that have only one way out. I haven't done this, and it appears very difficult to do. Just go crazy with the FLUX spell. Your firestaff seems to have infinite energy so cast like crazy, even at random. Remember that the FLUXes have a life of about twenty (?) seconds. Good Luck. <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><+><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> < | > < J.D. Frazer | "How can the same shit happen to the > < a481@mindlink.UUCP | guy TWICE?!" - Officer John McLain > < Vancouver, B.C. | in a bad situation; DIE HARD II > < CANADA | > <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><+><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
vervalin@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (Paul Vervalin) (08/25/90)
OK, I give up. I've tried everything I can possibly think of to extinguish Chaos, and have been utterly unsuccessful. Can anyone PLEASE be of some assistance. I want to list the things I've tried but don't want to risk potentially spoiling things for someone else. But, I have definately tried all suggestions that I have read from this group, but to no avail.
a481@mindlink.UUCP (J.D. Frazer) (01/06/91)
Here's a cry for help from my significant other. I've played the first DM and finished it, so now she's giving it a go. However, she's completely stuck on a certain level, and I can't recall how I got beyond it. She's on the level which looks like a huge arena, where you meet the laughing theives for the first time and skeletons and ghosts are in abundance. She says she's explored everything she could, and she has found multiple switches/pressure plates, but all to no avail. Can anyone help point her in the correct direction? -- <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><+><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> < J.D. Frazer | "How can the same sh*t happen to the > < a481@mindlink.UUCP | same guy TWICE?!" - Officer John McLain > < Vancouver, B.C. | in a bad situation; DIE HARD II > < CANADA | > <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><+><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
CRH104@psuvm.psu.edu (02/14/91)
I am on level 6 and I am unable to get past the room with the Beholder, Pit, two pressure plates, lever, and the portcullis. Also, do the faces chiseled into the wall do anything? Finally, does the same hold true for the pineapple shaped impressions? Thanks.
Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Stewart Mckinnon) (02/14/91)
RE: HELP WITH LEVEL 6.....Hmmmm....are you referring to the small room with the teleport that is activated with a lever? Very simply, switch off the teleport, place an object on the floor where the teleport was, and switch it back on. Now, step into the teleport yourself. You will be teleported around the corner, and can now press the green button. You could have first gone into the now-opened gate and got the key....then zapped through the teleport. This is just one way, there are a couple, I'm told! -- Stewart Mckinnon - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Stewart.Mckinnon Internet: Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
pondscum@zooid (Lima Bone) (03/03/91)
On level 6..in the I do not want to be ignored room...there is a pressure plate that opens a wall nearby..but I cannot lay anything down on it to keep it open....HOW DO I DO THIS? No hints please..just give me the answer. Lima Bone
Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Stewart Mckinnon) (03/03/91)
RE: RE: KEEPING THE WALL SECTION OPEN.....OK. No hints. Find a SKELETON and use a magic box to FREEZE LIFE mim on the spot that triggers the wall section. Then go through there and press the button inside. The wall section will stay open. Simple. How'd you get THIS far? -- Stewart Mckinnon - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Stewart.Mckinnon Internet: Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com (03/04/91)
To keep that wall section open (that opens when you stand on a tiny switch in the floor, but closes again before you can reach the wall), you need to get someone (or something) else to stand there, then make them stay there for a while... you've been carrying those Magical Boxes around with you..? BobR
Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Stewart Mckinnon) (03/29/91)
RE: ZOKATHRA SPELL & OTHER ITEMS.....The ZOKATHRA spell's usefullness will be apparent near the end of the game....Unfortunately, WIZARD and PRIEST levels grow more quickly, because there is so much more of that kind of activity than fighting. However, it would be wise to battle some of the creatures (such as the SKELETONS on another level....also mummies are good to build up your fighting skills) because on the later levels, you're gonna REALLY need those fighting skills. Also, the damage that your fighter can deliver, will be in proportion to his fighting skill(& strength of course) Have fun, and keep writing in as regards your level and any problems you may be stuck with. I very much enjoy answering questions on this game, and I usually read the USENET base twice a day! -- Stewart Mckinnon - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Stewart.Mckinnon Internet: Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org