rogue@cellar.UUCP (Rogue Winter) (03/27/91)
<y'know, you're just gonna have to get USED to these kinds of titles> In the Deth Knight corridor, off the Demon Director level, there are two crucial things to know: 1) About nin queares before the corridor dead ends, there is a small ("spot") button on the "outside" wall that opens up the wall a few squares back and leads to a down stairway. (The opening is visible if you look through the walls.) 2) Most important, however, is the fact that the corridor you're in at the dead end *is not the same* corridor that you were in at the last bend. About halfway through, there are two squares that act as an "invisible" teleoport. You can use these squares to get behind the Deth Knights and go back to the golem room while you're fighting them, if necessary (and if you've killed the Knights, you probably did use this method). The corridor's placement is borne out if you've been mapping. By comparing the locations of the stairway down from the Deth Knight corridor to the other stairs to level 6 off the Demon Director room, you find out that you've actually jumped about 36 squares - to the other margin of a sheet of graph paper. ---SPOILER, of sorts--- Once you're down the stairs, you'll find that what you should already have learned about level 6 still holds true - there's LOTS of dragons down there.
Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Stewart Mckinnon) (03/28/91)
RE: DETH KNIGHT CORRIDOR IN KU CORBUM.....I don't know where you got this from, but none of it, except for the part where the teleport puts you on the other side of the dungeon, is true. There is NO button between the inscription 'Dead End' and the 'dead end'. The solution to this is as follows: After moving several paces down the corridor, you will hear the DETH KNIGHTS teleport in behind you - between you and the'dead end'. Approximately 4 seconds after they arrive, the 'dead end' will open up behind you. You MUST be standing in this square for it to happen. So DON'T go back to fight the KNIGHTS when you hear them - just keep on to the last square. In addition, you CANNOT get on the other side of the KNIGHTS. There is no DOOR that opens up that leads to astairway going down! There is NOTHING along here except a seemingly dead end that opens up as described above. I think you are confusing the area that you come to AFTER passing the 'dead end'- this is the spot where there IS a button that opens the wall leading down to the DRAGONS DEN - but the way you are desribing it, it sounds like you find this button BEFORE getting past the 'deadend'! It's NOT possible to get on the other side of the DETH KNIGHTS and back to the 'golem room' as you describe. Moreover, you will encounter another set of DETH KNIGHTS if you return to the KU CORBUM doorway, and step on the same spot. So, you will have to fight another bunch - be prepared! Just thought I'd clarify this. -- Stewart Mckinnon - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Stewart.Mckinnon Internet: Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
rogue@cellar.UUCP (Rogue Winter) (03/30/91)
Stewart McKinnon writes: > I think you are confusing the area that you come to AFTER passing > the 'dead end'- this is the spot where there IS a button that opens > the wall leading down to the DRAGONS DEN - but the way you are desribing > it, it sounds like you find this button BEFORE getting past the > 'deadend'! It's NOT possible to get on the other side of the DETH > KNIGHTS and back to the 'golem room' as you describe. Moreover, you > will encounter another set of DETH KNIGHTS if you return to the KU > CORBUM doorway, and step on the same spot. So, you will have to fight > another bunch - be prepared! Just thought I'd clarify this. Confused? No. Unclear? Yes, I suppose so. I was not considering the first barrier in the corridor to be the dead end. (In fact, I had nearly forgotten about it.) I was referring to the "actual" dead end long after the wall had disappeared, hence all my references to the bends in the corridor. The actual map looks something like: --------------------------------------------------------------------------| ZZ | ----------------------------------------------------------------------| #######################################################################| | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | |####################################################################### | |------------------------------------------------------------------| | BB DKA | |----------------------------------------------------------------|to G | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |^^| |-----------------.------|@@|-------------------------------------------- | ZZ |------------------------------------------------------------------------ Where ZZ=the teleporter, BB=the barrier, DKA=Deth Knights Appear ~~~~ represents map sections ignored, .=the button, @@=disappearing wall, ^^=stairway down. Entering the first section of long corridor, you are given the admonishemt "DEAD END." As you progress down the corridor, the Deth Knights appear behind you. The barrier will hold for a while, forcing you to fight the Knights in the short section of corridor. After a while (I haven't found any correlation why), the barrier will disappear: just keep facing the knights, hit them with everything you've got, and trying to back up. I like to stay three paces ahead of them when possible and use industrial-strength fireballs. When you reach the teleport squares, if you haven't killed the knights already, wait there until they disappear. They will keep going down the corridor and appear behind you. Then you can back them out toward the entrance again. (I have found that you can safely sleep in the two teleport squares.) After killing the knights, find the button that opens the stairway, and go down to the Dragon Den. 'nuf said?
Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Stewart Mckinnon) (03/30/91)
YES......I see what you are saying....I never let them get as far as the teleport squares - always was in a hurry to nail their asses! In fact, I usually dispatch the last one at the start of the second bend. You bring up a good point, there, about being able to get on the other side of them that way. However, as I said, I thought you were referring to the first area before passing the fake 'dead end'. Have you completed the game? -- Stewart Mckinnon - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Stewart.Mckinnon Internet: Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org
rogue@cellar.UUCP (Rogue Winter) (04/03/91)
Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org (Stewart Mckinnon) writes: > Have you completed the game? > > > > -- > Stewart Mckinnon - via FidoNet node 1:221/171 > UUCP : watmath!xenitec!zswamp!178.0!Stewart.Mckinnon > Internet: Stewart.Mckinnon@p0.f178.n221.z1.fidonet.org Soon, soon. The answers I was giving were from memories of over three months ago when I was playing it on my roommate's ST. (No flames, that's what the wall jets are for.) I just picked up the Amiga version this weekend, and have been having a tuly grand time. (Actually, I've got two game saves running - one where I've just gotten the Ku corbum, and another afterward where I've got two characters lying dead in the Demon Directors' chamber and the other two have gone off without them, picking up the Emerald and Torquise keys.) One thing disappointed me about the Amiga version: the magic map. (Which is being "carried" by one of the dead characters on the second disk...) I thought it was a bit unnecessary to include it, especially in the starting room. [Of course, I've used the written maps I made from the ST version, so who am I to judge?] Making the original maps from the ST version was great fun. Current status: fighting off the coatl in the Dain maze and trying to remember how that "BRIDGE" works.