seebs@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) (05/15/91)
In article <1991May13.150110.10424@cs.ruu.nl> ptavoly@cs.ruu.nl (Peter Tavoly) writes: >I did not say impossible, I said that a commercial program that does not >know *on beforehand* where the manual protection lies will most likely >not find it, unless the programmer has put a message in his code a la: >"Here I am, your friendly neighbourhood manual protection! Just change >these two pointers, and I'll be gone in a huff, never to bother you again!" Oh... I thought you meant that no commercial prograrm could do it, period. There exist many commercial programs (everyone's been listing their names) which have paramater files for cracking particular games... That's easy enough. Admittedly, the other case would be harder, but *maybe* it's possible... ;-) >>(And I'm never *going* to be Linda Seebach) > -ThomasT. (And I am never going to be Peter either, as someone quoted me > in this thread) Sympathies... I know how hard it can be to be mistaken for me. ;-) Note that I now have my own account back, so I'm no longer mndaily... >Thomas Tavoly, Commercial Computer Science - HEAO Utrecht, NL. / / / --SeebS-- -- Peter Seebach - The Laughing Prophet | | Anonymous Posting Here! I don't speak for St. Olaf, St. Olaf | | seebs@acc.stolaf.edu doesn't speak for me, and Marcel Marceau | | "Forgive them Father, for they speaks for no one. | | do not get the joke..."
ptavoly@cs.ruu.nl (Peter Tavoly) (05/17/91)
In <1991May14.210801.4019@news.stolaf.edu> seebs@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) writes: >In article <1991May13.150110.10424@cs.ruu.nl> ptavoly@cs.ruu.nl (Peter Tavoly) writes: >>I did not say impossible, I said that a commercial program that does not >>know *on beforehand* where the manual protection lies will most likely >>not find it, unless the programmer has put a message in his code a la: >>"Here I am, your friendly neighbourhood manual protection! Just change >>these two pointers, and I'll be gone in a huff, never to bother you again!" > >Oh... I thought you meant that no commercial prograrm could do it, period. I said indeed that no program (commercial or not for that matter) could do it, but it is the *way* they can't do it, that makes the difference :) i.e AI is NOT part of any copy program as yet.. I can see the headlines already: "Sensational! Project D beat Kasparov!" Another way to state things is: Not the copy program, but the author of the copy program can remove protection, since he learns the new protection techniques and incorporates them into his program. >There exist many commercial programs (everyone's been listing their names) >which have paramater files for cracking particular games... That's easy >enough. Admittedly, the other case would be harder, but *maybe* it's >possible... ;-) > >>>(And I'm never *going* to be Linda Seebach) > >> -ThomasT. (And I am never going to be Peter either, as someone quoted me >> in this thread) > >Sympathies... I know how hard it can be to be mistaken for me. >;-) I meant Peter Tavoly, my brother, whose account (almost exclusively) I am using. (He occasionally asks whether he got mail.. :) (Just for the utterly stupid: (again) I am Thomas Tavoly, brother of Peter Tavoly) > >Note that I now have my own account back, so I'm no longer mndaily... OK, >Linda< :^) > >>Thomas Tavoly, Commercial Computer Science - HEAO Utrecht, NL. / / / > >--SeebS-- >-- >Peter Seebach - The Laughing Prophet | | Anonymous Posting Here! >I don't speak for St. Olaf, St. Olaf | | seebs@acc.stolaf.edu >doesn't speak for me, and Marcel Marceau | | "Forgive them Father, for they >speaks for no one. | | do not get the joke..." -ThomasT. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ____ Thomas Tavoly, Commercial Computer Science - HEAO Utrecht, NL. / / / "Whoever talks too much, has no time to think." - Peter Tavoly. AMIGA / Favourite quote: "The Mac OS is amazingly complex, ____ / / / .sig v3.0e given how little it does." - Peter da Silva \ \ \/ / / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>> ptavoly@praxis.cs.ruu.nl <<~~~~~~~~~ \_\_\/_/