[comp.sys.amiga.games] Lemmings Help! - Level21 Mayhem

axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu (05/26/91)

Help! ... Lemmings level 21 of mayhem (level 111 overall?)

Title: With a Twist of Lemmings
Supplies:  50 floaters, 1 climber, 1 basher, 1 digger, 4 builders (that's it)
Save = 100% and you have about 5mins. and 50 lemmings to work with total.

This is what the level looks like! ...



           *********
           \ drop  /
            ------
      
        ****       *************************
        *  *       *                       *
        *  *       *      (3)              *
        *  *       *      ****             *
        *  *  (1)  *      *  *             *
  /\    *  *       *      *  *             *
 /  \   *  *       *      *  *             *      ___
/    \  *  ****************  *             *     /   \
 mtn  \ *  *       *         ***************    /home \
       \*  *       *                          _/_______\
        *  *       *       _____               *      *
        *  *       *        * *   _______      *      *
        *  *       *  (2)   * *     * *        *      *
        *  *       *        * *     * *        *      *
        ****************************************


(1) - too far to let lemmings just drop - they die... i.e.  that's what the 50
floaters are for...
I can build two bridges here to save them all, but then I have only two left
to get home.

If the home was hidden in the mountain to the left, it is possible to dig/bash
and possibly get them all home safely... but I can't find the homethere, so
I guess the one to the right is the only one.

(2) - with only 4 bridges, once the drop down into the dirt (2) it's too low to
get them back up and across the other post and to home (need about 2 bridges
just to get to home from the last post ...)

(3) - if this was lower, you could build 3 bridges, bash straight across and
use the last bridge to home, but I'm always just a tiny bit below that
mark, so they all far down into the dirt (2).

any solutions would be appreciated... I just can't figure this one out. At
least with school over, I can get back to more important things - like
finishing lemmings! 

Thanks! Pam

-- 
Pam Woods                              Email:  Internet: axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu
University Of Alaska Anchorage                 Bitnet:   axpmw@alaska
Fyi: See Lemmings Cartoon In OMNI mag this month on page 56.

mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu (Malcolm Diallo Moore) (05/27/91)

In article <1991May26.023002.1@acad2.alaska.edu> axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
>Help! ... Lemmings level 21 of mayhem (level 111 overall?)
>
>Title: With a Twist of Lemmings
>Supplies:  50 floaters, 1 climber, 1 basher, 1 digger, 4 builders (that's it)
>Save = 100% and you have about 5mins. and 50 lemmings to work with total.
>
>This is what the level looks like! ...
>
>
>
>           *********
>           \ drop  /
>            ------
>                            >A< 
>        ****       *************************
>        *  *       *                       *
>        *  *       *      (3)              *
>        *  *       *      ****             *
>        *  *  (1)  *      *  *             *
>  /\    *  *       *      *  *             *
> /  \   *  *       *      *  *             *      ___
>/    \  *  *       *      *  *             *     /   \
> mtn  \ *  *      F*      *  ***************    /home \
>       \*  *************** E                 C2/_______\
>        *  *       *      ______B              *      *
>        *  *       *        * *   D_______C     *      *
>        *  *       *  (2)   * *     * *        *      *
>        *  *       *        * *     * *        *      *
>        ****************************************
>
Oooooh yeah I was stuck on this one for a while.  A good long while, jack.  But
then I figured it out, but then it was still hard to finish.
>
>(1) - too far to let lemmings just drop - they die... i.e.  that's what the 50
>floaters are for...
>I can build two bridges here to save them all, but then I have only two left
>to get home.
>
1A) First things first:  DO NOT JACK UP THE RELEASE RATE.  Keep it at 1.
1B) Make the VERY FIRST Lemming out an Athlete.

>If the home was hidden in the mountain to the left, it is possible to dig/bash
>and possibly get them all home safely... but I can't find the homethere, so
>I guess the one to the right is the only one.
>
Nope, you gets no luck there jack. The home on the right is the only home.

>(2) - with only 4 bridges, once the drop down into the dirt (2) it's too low to
>get them back up and across the other post and to home (need about 2 bridges
>just to get to home from the last post ...)

Don't worry about that.  The first fella is gonna do almost ALL the work.

2A) Once you have made your first lemming climb, go back to floater and keep
    clicking on the lemmings that are falling out.  Entertain yourself with
    this task until the athlete lemming reaches point A above.

2B) It would be best to pause the game by pressing 'P'.  Then, change over
    to Digger (straight down) and position the cursor on the athlete.  Unpause
    the game, click on him and pause the game again.

2C) Change back to floater, and keep clicking on the lemmings falling out until
    the loner fella digs his way through the slab and approaches point B above.

3) Pause the game again, change over to Builder, unpause and make the loner
   build from point B.  Pause, go back to floater attributes, unpause and start
   clicking on the lemmings falling out until our loner hero reaches point C.

4) Pause, go to builder, unpause and make our hero build from Point C.  IT IS
   VERY IMPORTANT that you make him build so that when he reaches point C2, he
   will TURN AROUND after he's through building the bridge.  So it would be
   wise to let him walk as close to the ledge as possible at point C as possible
   before making him a builder.  Him and the other 49 fellas will be able to 
   negotiate the little step up at point C2 if you time it right.

5) Pause, go to floater, and keep clicking on the fellas as they fall in until  
   our hero finishes building up to C2, turns around and walks toward point D.

6) Once the lemming has reached point D, pause the game, change over to builder
   and make him build.  There might be a problem with him hitting his head
   on the bridge he just created.  But it's not impossible.  If he does hit his
   head and give up, you must nuke the level.

7) Pause, back to floater, unpause, keep clicking on fellow lemmings until our
   hero reaches point E. (you can do it a little before, I remember the first
   block hung lower than the second.

8) Pause, back to builder, unpause, make him build into the wall.

9) The next step is just a matter of luck: Once our hero has built into the wall
   retired for home, you must use the one digger at Point F to let all the 
   other fellas out.  There's probably thirty or forty in there by now, so it's
   all a matter of luck.  And you also have to watch out for the fellas that
   are still falling out of the trapdoor.  If you do it just right, he'll dig
   through the wall till he reaches the gap, the other fellas will fall onto the
   bridge that the first lemming made, and the whole glob of them will just
   truck on throo.  YOu will have to use any remaining floater attributes on 
   the few stragglers.

WHEWWW!!  Damn that was long!  But I'd rather be thorough than brief.  The
reason I say "Pause, do something, unpause, etc. etc." is because even with the
release rate at 1, you can be concentrating on one lemming and 3-4 others are
dying because you forgot you had to concentrate on them, too.

Hope this helpz...if it doesn't email me.

Oh yeah, you can change Lemming Attributes with the arrow keys.

>any solutions would be appreciated... I just can't figure this one out. At
>least with school over, I can get back to more important things - like
>finishing lemmings! 

I want a second Lemmings installment..."Lemmings in the New York Projects...
Lemmings on 98th and East 14th in Oakland...." :-)

Straight Jackin,

Malcolm "The Capital MD" Moore
----------Amiga: The One and Only.  All the Rest Can Get the Bozack.-----------
"I ain't never got gaffled like that, I used to do the gaffilin'--
McDonald's was my spot."
"Man, what you used to do??"
"Jack them motherfuckers for them Nissan Trucks.  Right in the drive thru."

ttobler@unislc.uucp (Trent Tobler) (05/31/91)

From article <1991May26.023002.1@acad2.alaska.edu>, by axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu:
> Help! ... Lemmings level 21 of mayhem (level 111 overall?)
> 
> Title: With a Twist of Lemmings
> Supplies:  50 floaters, 1 climber, 1 basher, 1 digger, 4 builders (that's it)
> Save = 100% and you have about 5mins. and 50 lemmings to work with total.
> 
> This is what the level looks like! ...
> 
> 
> 
>            *********
>            \ drop  /
>             ------   athelete
>                    ------>
>         ****       *************************
>         *  *      ^*           |           *
>         *  *      |*      (3)  |           *
>         *  *      |*tunnel**** |tunnel     *
>         *  *  (1) |*(last *  * |           *
>   /\    *  *      |* step)*  * v           *
>  /  \   *  *      |*--->  *  *             *      ___
> /    \  *  ****************  *             *     /   \
>  mtn  \ *  *       *         ***************    /home \
>        \*  *       *  `-_ <--> -> _-'        __/_______\
>         *  *       *    B`-_____-'A        _'  *      *
>         *  *       *        * *   _______-'C   *      *
>         *  *       *  (2)   * *     * *        *      *
>         *  *       *        * *     * *        *      *
>         ****************************************
> 
> 
> (1) - too far to let lemmings just drop - they die... i.e.  that's what the 50
> floaters are for...

   Right, they all must be turned to floaters.


The way I solved it was for the first lemming to be an athelete
(floater/climber), tunnel down to the pillars, fix some bridges up to save
the rest (A,B,and C in the picture)... and then let out the rest by having
them tunnel (this was sort of hard as they got all bunched up an I kept
digging the wrong way.)

I've labeled the picture (as best I could with ASCII) with the way I did it...

> any solutions would be appreciated... I just can't figure this one out. At
> least with school over, I can get back to more important things - like
> finishing lemmings! 
> 
> Thanks! Pam
> 
> -- 
> Pam Woods                              Email:  Internet: axpmw@acad2.alaska.edu
> University Of Alaska Anchorage                 Bitnet:   axpmw@alaska
> Fyi: See Lemmings Cartoon In OMNI mag this month on page 56.