hjalmar@cbmswe.UUCP (Peter Hjalmarsson) (05/19/91)
In article <6509@vela.acs.oakland.edu> lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Laurana Bailey) writes: >In article <9105210951.aa12181@zds-oem.zds.COM> benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineering) writes: >> >>I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like >>a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the >>preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in >>peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really >>deserve to. > >The movie is called Rocketeer and I am afraid that Cinemaware is not >the first to have such a concept. These types of movies were common >back in that time period as serials run at the local Bijou. Westerns >and several other serials were run in the theaters usually before the >big show. > > >-- >/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >|Just another lemming... | Yet another Amiga maniac set loose | >| | on the world...and you thought things| >|lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu | couldn't get any worse. | Well, this one is a _licensed_ film version of the comic book Rocketeer by Dave Stevens, so it has absolutely nothing to do with the Cinemaware game, other than I suspect that Cinemaware has been inspired by the Comic bok as well. Read the comic, it is great!! Peter Hjalmarsson, Amiga Support, Commdore Sweden ...{uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmswe!hjalmar
benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineering) (05/21/91)
I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like
a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the
preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in
peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really
deserve to.
--
Adam Benjamin // AN353@Clevaland.freenet.edu <- good chance
Amiga Fanatic at\X/ Large Benjamin%zds-oem@caspian.cs.andrews.edu
(AFAL) ^^^^Slim Chance but you can try it^^^^^swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) (05/21/91)
In article <9105210951.aa12181@zds-oem.zds.COM> benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineering) writes: > >I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like >a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the >preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in >peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really >deserve to. No, both of these are take-offs from the cheap sci-fi thrillers of the 30s and 40s. You can still rent them from your local video store. Don't you wonder why both Rocket Ranger & Rocket Man are set in the WW II time-frame? That is because the originals were actually produced in the 30s and 40s. So when people do a take-off on them they set it in the same era. -- _. --Steve ._||__ Warren v\ *| V
kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) (05/22/91)
swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) writes: >In article <9105210951.aa12181@zds-oem.zds.COM> benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineering) writes: >> >>I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like >>a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. >No, both of these are take-offs from the cheap sci-fi thrillers of the 30s >and 40s. *Sigh*. _Rocket Ranger_ is adapted from a comic book, which in turn was inspired by the serials. -- Kenneth Herron kherron@ms.uky.edu University of Kentucky +1 606 257 2975 Department of Mathematics "So this won't be a total loss, can you make it so guys get to throw their mothers-in-law in?" "Sure, why not?"
lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Laurana Bailey) (05/22/91)
In article <9105210951.aa12181@zds-oem.zds.COM> benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineering) writes: > >I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like >a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the >preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in >peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really >deserve to. The movie is called Rocketeer and I am afraid that Cinemaware is not the first to have such a concept. These types of movies were common back in that time period as serials run at the local Bijou. Westerns and several other serials were run in the theaters usually before the big show. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ |Just another lemming... | Yet another Amiga maniac set loose | | | on the world...and you thought things| |lmbailey@vela.acs.oakland.edu | couldn't get any worse. |
v125lqbx@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian T McColpin) (05/22/91)
In article <1991May21.184810.541@ms.uky.edu>, kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes... |>> |>>I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like |>>a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. | |>No, both of these are take-offs from the cheap sci-fi thrillers of the 30s |>and 40s. | |*Sigh*. _Rocket Ranger_ is adapted from a comic book, which in turn |was inspired by the serials. The comic book is called The Rocketeer, which is what the movie called, as well. Like I'm sure you all wanted to know that. :-) Anyway, the point is that the game and the movie are both spinoffs of the comic book.
swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) (05/22/91)
In article <77346@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v125lqbx@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
]In article <1991May21.184810.541@ms.uky.edu>, kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes...
]|>>
]|>>I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like
]|>>a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger.
]|
]|>No, both of these are take-offs from the cheap sci-fi thrillers of the 30s
]|>and 40s.
]|
]|*Sigh*. _Rocket Ranger_ is adapted from a comic book, which in turn
]|was inspired by the serials.
]
]The comic book is called The Rocketeer, which is what the movie called, as
]well. Like I'm sure you all wanted to know that. :-) Anyway, the point
]is that the game and the movie are both spinoffs of the comic book.
Which in turn was inspired by the serials. ie, "the cheap sci-fi thrillers of
the 30s and 40s". *Sigh*
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--Steve ._||__
Warren v\ *|
V djohnson@mbongo.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) (05/22/91)
>I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like >a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the >preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in >peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really >deserve to. Well, CinemaWare should probably be collecting royalties from Rocket Man (or whatever the studio is), since it's been around since the 30's! Most of the CinemaWare games are very similar to old movies, hence the name. -- Darin Johnson djohnson@ucsd.edu - Luxury! In MY day, we had to make do with 5 bytes of swap...
gessel@cs.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Mark Gessel) (05/22/91)
In <77346@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> v125lqbx@ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian T McColpin) writes: >In article <1991May21.184810.541@ms.uky.edu>, kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes... >|>> >|>>I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like >|>>a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. >| >|>No, both of these are take-offs from the cheap sci-fi thrillers of the 30s >|>and 40s. >| >|*Sigh*. _Rocket Ranger_ is adapted from a comic book, which in turn >|was inspired by the serials. >The comic book is called The Rocketeer, which is what the movie called, as >well. Like I'm sure you all wanted to know that. :-) Anyway, the point >is that the game and the movie are both spinoffs of the comic book. Actually, It's not a spinoff of the Rocket Ranger comic. There was a comic called The Rocketeer (I should know, I was a production assistant at the comic book company (now defunct) that published the color issues). The comic was very popular, as the artist was famous (in the comic industry :-) for his "girly" pictures. The book was supposed to be a quarterly, but actually came out about once a year (for two years). When I was there, three years ago as a summer job, the Rocketeer the movie was in as a proposal to (I think) disney. I don't know who's releasing it, but I assume disney or a subsidary. I was told the movie deal would go through if Roger Rabbit was a hit, since they're both about the same period (40's). It was. The comic has been around about 5 years. Don't know whether the movie is any good, though. Dan -- Daniel Mark Gessel Internet: gessel@cs.swarthmore.edu
whitcomb@aurs01.UUCP (Jonathan Whitcomb) (05/22/91)
Okey, now that we have the chronology straight, can someone tell me
how the game is? I got a copy in a 3-pack with Blood Money and
Speedball (both great games!), but have yet to venture into Rocket
Ranger. It looks like it's pretty complex... is it worth the
effort to learn?
By the way, if you have never read Dave Steven's "The Rocketeer"
comic, you're missing some great fun. The artwork is superb, and
the dialog and plots are a gas. Unfortunately, Stevens never
finished the story... he got called away first to work on the
sets and costumes for "The Flash", and then to work on the movie
adaptation of his comic... and he isn't even drawing the graphic
novel for the movie, only the cover. I am looking forward to
the movie, though.
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Jonathan Whitcomb UUCP: <whitcomb%aurgate@mcnc.org>
Alcatel Network Systems, Raleigh, NC Delphi: JBWHIT
mechrw@tnessd.sbc.com (Robert Wallace (214+464-6552)) (05/23/91)
Just FYI: In the recently released-to-videotape movie _Avalon_, young Mike was in the movie house (with hundreds of other children) watching the serial "Rocket Man". It's hard to tell if the footage shown was authentic or staged, but it looked authentic. RE: Rocket Ranger -- If you'll read the text that comes with the game, you'll find the reference section listing a couple of these serials. Unfortunately, I don't have mine at work with me (what! you don't either?) and can't verify that Avalon's Rocket Man was among those referenced. Robert
crazyrat@disk.uucp (Crazyrat) (05/23/91)
In article <9105210951.aa12181@zds-oem.zds.COM>, benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineering) writes: > > I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like > a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the > preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in > peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really > deserve to. Are you sure the movie wasn't entitled 'Rocketeer'? I think I saw the same movie preview (HBO) so I think I'm correct. I'm pretty certain that certain people are getting some sort of royalty from this deal. What I would like to know is, did this idea for the game/movie come from any book/novel/novella by a prominent author? I swear I think I saw an add for a book awhile back and said 'Hey! That looks like Rocket Ranger!'. Anyway.. @jap -- Joel C. Justen Crazyrat Productions Ltd. CRAZYRAT@DISK.UUCP JCJUST01@ulkyvx.BITNET
dower@ritcsh.csh.rit.edu (Dower) (05/23/91)
Well, the movie is called the 'Rocketeer', and if I am correct the movie is based on an old comic that had this character in it... It is not an original idea by Cinemaware, although it was a good game, so they shouldn't collect anything for the creation of the film... l8r... dower@ritcsh.rit.edu...
dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan) (05/24/91)
The "bullethead" serials were all done by Republic. The first was _King_of_the_Rocketmen_. The title character, Jerry King (heh), used a rocket pack invented by a scientist friend to thwart the schemes of Dr. Vulcan. A few years after that, Republic did _Radar_Men_From_The_Moon_. In this one, "Commando" Cody, "Sky Marshall of the Universe" (who was unfortunately born without a first name...) was called upon by the US government to stop an invasion from the moon, led by the evil Retik. Clayton Moore appeared in this as one of the bad guys while on strike from _The_Lone_Ranger_. Unlike that wimp Jerry King, Cody was a scientific genius *and* a square-jawed hero: he built the rocket pack himself, and a rocket that could fly to the moon, and went out and beat up bad guys. Of course, he was also the worst shot in the universe -- he carried a gun, but never managed to hit anything with it... The same year, they released _Zombies_of_the_Stratosphere_, with Judd Holdren (a/k/a Captain Video) playing the hero, Larry Martin. The invasion came from Mars this time, and some unknown jerk named Leonard Nimoy can be found amongst the "zombies"... Finally, a year later, Judd Holdren was called back to duty, this time playing "Commando" Cody in _Commando_Cody,_Sky_Marshal_of_the_Universe_. While there was a continuing storyline from episode to episode, it was not filmed in the serial or "cliffhanger" format. Each episode was a self-contained story. This was because Republic wanted to run it on television after its theatrical release, and they did -- it ran on NBC, sponsored by General Foods. You can find the first two on VHS. I'm told that the third is also available, but I've never seen it for sale anywhere. _Rocketeer_ was a homage not only to the "rocket men" but to the whole pulp era. While Stevens obviously couldn't use the names, anyone reading the origin story could tell that Cliff Secord got the rocket pack from Doc Savage, and in "Cliff's New York Adventure" he's clearly working with The Shadow. An ironic footnote: Stevens was hit with a lawsuit remarkably similar to the controversial "look and feel" lawsuits that are plagiung the software industry. Marvel Comics sued him because they had a criminal gang called "the Rocketeers" in their comics, who flew around and shot at people with "rocket guns". I never found out what the ultimate resolution of that suit was. dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com ...uunet!tronsbox!dfrancis GEnie: D.HEFFERNAN1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I don't understand why you make such a big deal out of everything...haven't you learned; if it's not happenning to me it's not important?" -Murphy Brown
dusek@motcid.UUCP (James P. Dusek) (05/28/91)
The movie Rocketeer origonaly had Doc Savage in it, but that part was changed, along with a few others. At first I thought this was gonna be like Rocket Ranger becuase the Rocketeer looked like RR, but I've read differently lately. When it come out I'll add it to the list of movies to see (which includes Backdraft, and Terminator2). J.Dusek
hotline@dorsai (Anthony Palestrini) (06/03/91)
benjamin%zds-oem@CASPIAN.CS.ANDREWS.EDU (Adam Benjamin Core Hardware Engineerin writes: > > I spotted a new movie soon to be released that looks very much like > a spin-off of our beloved Rocket Ranger. Have any of you seen the > preview? It's called Rocket Man, and if CinemaWare (may they rest in > peace) isn't collecting some kind of royalty for the idea, they really > deserve to. > -- > > Adam Benjamin // AN353@Clevaland.freenet.edu <- good chance > Amiga Fanatic at\X/ Large Benjamin%zds-oem@caspian.cs.andrews.edu > (AFAL) ^^^^Slim Chance but you can try it^^^^^ That is rocketeer (in the movies). Cinemaware shouldnt claim any royalties It should be the people in 1941 to claim them who ran that radio serial "Rocket Ranger". Not too many people know this, Rocket Ranger was a old radio show during World War II, heh. Thats what the movie is based on, so is the game.