[net.railroad] HO scale query

scc (12/02/82)

Can somebody tell me what the scaling factor is for HO size
model railroads.
				Thanks in Advance
				Sally Catena
				Western Electric-burlington, nc
				floyd!burl!scc

jcw (12/03/82)

And while they're telling us the HO scale, can someone tell us
what readily available toys are available in the same scale?
Seems like I once heard that 'matchbox' toys are HO scale, but
I've never been able to verify it.

swanson (12/05/82)

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uiucdcs!swanson    Dec  5 12:36:00 1982


For HO scale the scale data is:

Proportion to prototype                          : 1/87.1
Scale to prototype feet, in decimals of an inch  : 0.138
Scale to prototype feet, in fractions of an inch : 1/7.3
Distance between rails, in inches                : .65

This information is from "The Complete Book of Model Railroading"
by David Sutton, (Castle Books:New York). It is a bit old (1964)
and a little outdated, but still an excellent starter book.

Robert Swanson
Thiensville Railroad

prgclb@sri-unix (12/07/82)

A bit of trivia --
I understand that the meaning of HO is "half - 0."
HO gauge was the first attempt to miniaturize the predominant
O gauge.  However, I don't think that HO is exactly half - 0,
I think it's a little larger.

Any experts who can confirm, deny or amplify this?

Carl Blesch

heliotis (12/08/82)

What is HOn3 and HOn2-1/2?  I saw these in an issue of Model Railroader.

jis (12/08/82)

I have always been curious to know why the HO gauge is called HO in the
US and OO (or double-O) in UK. As far as I know the scaling factors and
everything else is the same in both. Then why the two different names?

The scales of model railroads are usually with reference to the standard
gauge (4'81/2"). Is there any convention for specifying scale factors with
respect to other gauges? I am interested in HO scale factors with respect
to broad gauge (5'6"). This is the predominant gauge in several countries
of the world: eg. India, Pakistan, Spain, and some others. Any info about
this would be much appreciated.

Jishnu Mukerji
BTL Holmdel 1B-425
UUCP address: harpo!hocsd!jis
ARPA address: jishnu at MIT-MC

CAD:quarles (12/10/82)

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ucbcad!quarles    Dec  9 16:08:00 1982


	What is HOn3 and HOn2-1/2?  I saw these in an issue of Model Railroader.

These are terms used for referring to narrow gauge railroads.  A
standard gauge railroad is (I think) 4 feet 9 1/2 inches center to
center between the rails, and standard HO scale models this
with rails spaced 1/87 of this distance (approx. 18.7 mm) apart.
HOn3 is a model based on a narrow gauge prototype with a 3 foot center
to center rail spacing.  Similarly, HOn2-1/2 models a narrow gauge prototype
with a 2.5 foot center to center rail spacing.

stocker (12/10/82)

HOn3 is HO narrow guage with a distance between rails of 3 scale feet.
HOn2 1/2 is the same with 2 1/2 scale feet between rails.
Such smaller (than the 4 foot 8 1/2 standard) gauges were used out west
where the mountains wouldn't allow for larger roadbed and equipment,
in some Eastern railroads where the cost of 'real' equipmet
nt
was prohibitive, in amusement parks, etc.

dave
pur-ee!stocker

emma (01/07/83)

I don't know anything about the UK, but for a while Lionel had a OO scale over
here, which was slightly larger than HO.  While on the scale topic, here are
some other questions--
what was American Flyer's S gauge?
what was Linonel's OO gauge (all I know about it is "larger than HO")
what is the difference between O gauge and Linoel's O27 gauge?
what is N gauge?
-Joe P.

heliotis (01/10/83)

I recently went to a model railroading meet, and asked about the difference
between "O" and "O27" scales.  I was told that the only difference is in
the height of the rails (I forgot the reason).  O27 is newer.  The "27" refers
to the radius of the curved track.  One can use the same cars on either
system, I believe.

						Jim Heliotis