aruigrok@bnr.ca (Adrian C Ruigrok) (07/05/90)
Has anybody given any consideration to making the macintosh a full player in the X.400 mail world? We are putting in an X.400 mail system at Bell-Northern Research, and everyone is threatening to turn the Macintosh into a dumb terminal to a User Agent on a Unix box because there is no commercially available User Agent for the Macintosh. The closest we have come is an X.400 Gateway from Touch that will let you use Quickmail. However, (though I have not checked) I assume that will only give us whatever subset of X.400 Quickmail provides. This will not give us access to our X.500 for name lookup and validation. This leads to the next question. Some work is being done on X.500, again in Unix, but is anybody considering a Macintosh Directory User Agent? I have seen a cool Hypercard stack that let you log onto a Unix box and use X.500 via the remote Directory User Agent, on the Unix box, but that is reducing the Macintosh to a pretty terminal again. If this is all ahead of its time that is fine. We will have to break the ground ourselves. But if someone has done some work in this area already I would love to hear about it. As always, I will post a summary if there is any interest. I have to admit I have never seen any talk of OSI for the Macintosh but I am always hopeful that I am not alone in my interests! Thanks Adrian ---------------------------------------------------------------- Adrian C Ruigrok Bell-Northern Research Open Systems Integration
ianh@bhpmrl.oz.au (Ian Hoyle) (07/07/90)
aruigrok@bnr.ca (Adrian C Ruigrok) writes: >Has anybody given any consideration to making the macintosh a full player >in the X.400 mail world? We are putting in an X.400 mail system at >Bell-Northern Research, and everyone is threatening to turn the Macintosh >into a dumb terminal to a User Agent on a Unix box because there is no >commercially available User Agent for the Macintosh. We have just had a peek (please no questions otherwise DEC may not be all that pleased :-) of DEC's new All-in-1 Mail product for the Macintosh. It was still at alpha test stage (we will be going into field testing of it soon) but it's pretty damned good. Very macish interface, and it interfaces to the All-in-1 server on the VAX which then talks to the Message Router suite of Mailbus stuff. --> make it good for enterprise level WAN mail networks. It speaks x.400 1984 p2 level, but inter-vendor operability would have to be tested out to see how the others have implmented the encapsulation of attached documents in the x.400 body types. >The closest we have come is an X.400 Gateway from Touch that will let you >use Quickmail. However, (though I have not checked) I assume that will >only give us whatever subset of X.400 Quickmail provides. This will not >give us access to our X.500 for name lookup and validation. The DEC product will use their DDS (distributed directory service) for name lookups, and i guess this will progress to x.500 as is DECnet as it moves to DECnet phase V. ian -- Ian Hoyle /\/\ Image Processing & Data Analysis Group / / /\ BHP Melbourne Research Laboratories / / / \ 245 Wellington Rd, Mulgrave, 3170 / / / /\ \ AUSTRALIA \ \/ / / / \ / / / Phone : +61-3-560-7066 \/\/\/ FAX : +61-3-561-6709 E-mail : ianh@bhpmrl.oz.au
tag@symbas.UUCP (Arne Gisvold) (07/09/90)
ianh@bhpmrl.oz.au (Ian Hoyle) writes: >We have just had a peek (please no questions otherwise DEC may not be all >that pleased :-) of DEC's new All-in-1 Mail product for the Macintosh. >The DEC product will use their DDS (distributed directory service) for >name lookups, and i guess this will progress to x.500 as is DECnet as it moves >to DECnet phase V. Hm! All I need now is a VAX - could be slightly more expensive than the Touch bridge! -) -) -) Regards Tor-Arne-- ! Tor-Arne Gisvold - Symbiotic Computer Systems A/S ! adress : Sandgt. 2 , N7001 Trondheim, Norway ! UUCP : ...mcsun!nuug!symbas.UUCP!tag or tag@symbas.uucp ! phone: +47-7-515544 FAX : +47-7-532027 AppleLink : NOR0038-- ! Tor-Arne Gisvold - Symbiotic Computer Systems A/S ! adress : Sandgt. 2 , N7001 Trondheim, Norway ! UUCP : ...mcsun!nuug!symbas.UUCP!tag or tag@symbas.uucp ! phone: +47-7-515544 FAX : +47-7-532027 AppleLink : NOR0038