rex@nbc1.ge.com (Rex Espiritu) (09/05/90)
We use NCSA Telnet v2.3 on our Macs here. We also have Ultrix applications that utilize vt220 terminal specific features. Is there a vt220 emulation for NCSA Telnet? Are there any products available that would enable us to telnet from our Macs w/ vt220 terminal emulation? Any info would be greatly appreciated. -- M. Rex Espiritu, Jr. NBC News, A Division of rex@nbc1.NBC.GE.COM National Broadcasting Company, Inc. {uunet!crdgw1,ge-dab,philabs}!nbc1!rex 30 Rockefeller Plaza, Room 807 Voice: 212 664-5390 FAX: 212 664-3859 New York, NY 10112
han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, fire fighter) (09/07/90)
In article <1990Sep5.155606.24751@nbc1.ge.com> rex@nbc1.GE.COM (Rex Espiritu) writes: >Are there any products available >that would enable us to telnet from our Macs w/ vt220 terminal emulation? > You might consider MacTerminal 3.0, which supports the Communications Toolbox and is Connection Manager, Terminal Manager and File Transfer Manager compliant (which means you can add new connection terminal and file transfer support) It comes with support for async serial and modem connections, tty, vt102 and vt320 terminal emulations, and text and xmodem file transfers. there is a TCP/IP connection tool available from Advanced Software Concepts that provides TCP/IP and Telnet support in addition to providing a FTP server also. There are at least two other companies that I know of that are working on TCP/IP or Telnet connection tools. There is another company working on two file transfer tools - Kermit and ZMODEM - these should be released sometime this fall. Hope this helps. This is not an advertisement for MacTerminal 3.0. I have no connection with Advanced Software Concepts except as a satisfied customer. This is not an official Apple statement or endorsement. Byron Han
kdb@macaw.intercon.com (Kurt Baumann) (09/07/90)
In article <1990Sep5.155606.24751@nbc1.ge.com>, rex@nbc1.ge.com (Rex Espiritu) writes: > We use NCSA Telnet v2.3 on our Macs here. We also have Ultrix applications > that utilize vt220 terminal specific features. > > Is there a vt220 emulation for NCSA Telnet? Are there any products available > that would enable us to telnet from our Macs w/ vt220 terminal emulation? > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > -- TCP/Connect II provides VT240/241 emulation as well as TN3270, and Tek 4014. Other applications supported are NNTP, finger, SLIP, SMTP/POP, FTP, etc... InterCon Telnet Driver will allow you to use Microphone II, VersaTerm Pro, and HP Business Session (TymLabs) over a telnet session. There are several TCP ctb Tools that are either on the market or are coming out soon, so keep your eyes open. That is about it. -- Kurt Baumann InterCon Systems Corporation 703.709.9890 Creators of fine TCP/IP products 703.709.9896 FAX for the Macintosh.
roland@dna.lth.se (Roland Mansson) (09/07/90)
In article <10074@goofy.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, fire fighter) writes: >In article <1990Sep5.155606.24751@nbc1.ge.com> rex@nbc1.GE.COM (Rex Espiritu) writes: >>Are there any products available >>that would enable us to telnet from our Macs w/ vt220 terminal emulation? >> >You might consider MacTerminal 3.0, which supports the Communications Toolbox >and is Connection Manager, Terminal Manager and File Transfer Manager >compliant (which means you can add new connection terminal and file transfer >support) Does the VT tools support printer redirection (ESC [ 5 i and ESC [ 4 i)? > >It comes with support for async serial and modem connections, tty, vt102 and >vt320 terminal emulations, and text and xmodem file transfers. > >Byron Han -- Roland Mansson, Lund University Computing Center, Box 783, S220 07 Lund, Sweden Phone: +46-46107436 Fax: +46-46138225 Bitnet: roland_m@seldc52 Internet: roland.mansson@ldc.lu.se or roland.mansson%ldc.lu.se@uunet.uu.net UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!sunic!ldc.lu.se!roland.mansson AppleLink: SW0022
leonardr@svc.portal.com (09/10/90)
In article <1990Sep7.075255.10599@lth.se> roland@dna.lth.se (Roland Mansson) writes: >In article <10074@goofy.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, fire fighter) writes: >>You might consider MacTerminal 3.0, which supports the Communications Toolbox >>and is Connection Manager, Terminal Manager and File Transfer Manager >>compliant (which means you can add new connection terminal and file transfer >>support) > >Does the VT tools support printer redirection (ESC [ 5 i and ESC [ 4 i)? > Not unless they have changed their opinions about text stream printing on the Macintosh. When Apple first announced the CTB, one of the first questions I asked was this one, and the responce at the time was NO WAY (followed by lots of implementation reasons that I won't go into). This applies to _ALL_ of the print related VTxxx sequences. I agree with you that this is a BIG problem for many, which is why I pushed Apple to at least THINK about it. One of my original proposals, which would be useful for other things, would be a 'callback' mechanism so that tools could let the application know that it encounted something that it didn't know about and 'Do you want to handle it?'. You could do this on the FRONT END to the tool, but inserting your own search strings for these sequences into the Connection Manager, but then you have to write the application... Leonard Rosenthol Software Ventures MicroPhone II Development Team
roland@dna.lth.se (Roland Mansson) (09/10/90)
In article <1990Sep9.211520.3965@svc.portal.com> leonardr@svc.portal.com writes: >In article <1990Sep7.075255.10599@lth.se> roland@dna.lth.se (Roland Mansson) writes: >>In article <10074@goofy.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, fire fighter) writes: >>>You might consider MacTerminal 3.0, which supports the Communications Toolbox >>>and is Connection Manager, Terminal Manager and File Transfer Manager >>>compliant (which means you can add new connection terminal and file transfer >>>support) >> >>Does the VT tools support printer redirection (ESC [ 5 i and ESC [ 4 i)? >> > Not unless they have changed their opinions about text stream >printing on the Macintosh. When Apple first announced the CTB, one of the >first questions I asked was this one, and the responce at the time was NO WAY >(followed by lots of implementation reasons that I won't go into). This >applies to _ALL_ of the print related VTxxx sequences. > Unfortunately, you're right. I got mail (THANKS!) from Tom Dowdy@apple: Short simple answer - no they do not. I'll hope they fix it to the next release. -- Roland Mansson, Lund University Computing Center, Box 783, S220 07 Lund, Sweden Phone: +46-46107436 Fax: +46-46138225 Bitnet: roland_m@seldc52 Internet: roland.mansson@ldc.lu.se or roland.mansson%ldc.lu.se@uunet.uu.net UUCP: {uunet,mcvax}!sunic!ldc.lu.se!roland.mansson AppleLink: SW0022
han@Apple.COM (Byron Han, scapegoat) (09/10/90)
In article <1990Sep9.211520.3965@svc.portal.com> leonardr@svc.portal.com writes: > Not unless they have changed their opinions about text stream >printing on the Macintosh. When Apple first announced the CTB, one of the >first questions I asked was this one, and the responce at the time was NO WAY >(followed by lots of implementation reasons that I won't go into). This >applies to _ALL_ of the print related VTxxx sequences. > The problem is that low level print streaming is not looked upon favorably (this is the current Party Line comrades!) The idea of using a callback (or callbacks) is being investigated. The CommToolbox should be considered to be a living architecture and will undergo enhancements/modifications. Input from the developer community will definitely by entertained (this is not a promise to implement, just a promise to listen) Byron Han CommToolbox Scapegoat