rhc%ucbpopuli.CC@Berkeley ( San Franciscan for Responsible Anarc (11/28/84)
Because of construction (involving a standpipe I hear) in the subway, Inbound cars (only) will be operating on the surface weekday nights after 2100 between Castro St and Church St. Outbound cars, and all cars at other times, are announced to be using the subway. Note that Church St, at and just south of Market, is now operating single-track; the inbound track has just been rebuilt, and the outbound is now torn up. Should be fun.
paul@dual.UUCP (Baker) (12/07/84)
>Because of construction (involving a standpipe I hear) in the subway, >Inbound cars (only) will be operating on the surface weekday nights >after 2100 between Castro St and Church St. Outbound cars, and all >cars at other times, are announced to be using the subway. >Note that Church St, at and just south of Market, is now operating >single-track; the inbound track has just been rebuilt, and the outbound >is now torn up. For the first few days of operation, Church Street was indeed operating single-tracked, however work on this section has now been finished. Some of the initial inexplicable delays descending into the Market Street tunnel seem to have been shortened so that the trip is now fairly fast. This service operates between 2130 & 0000 according to Muni. The standpipe apparently is required to satisfy fire regulations that were changed after the Bart fire a few years back. All of the Muni tunnel above the Bart tunnel already has the required pipes installed as has the Twin Peaks tunnel. There still remains the section between Church Street and Van Ness. When this is to be installed, I believe we will all be forced to use stinky diesel buses for at least part of the trip downtown. Hopefully, at some time, the trolley wires above Market Street will be converted to work with trolley poles or pantographs. as was done to the section along 17th Street between Castro & Church. This would permit a wider range of historic Trolleys to be used along Market Street as well as providing redundancy in the event of any difficulties or maintenace work being required in the Market Street tunnel. Paul Wilcox-Baker. (How many Muni staff do you think read net.railroad?)
rhc%ucbpopuli.CC@brl-tgr.ARPA (12/09/84)
Thanks for the background info. You don't *have* to use the diesel shuttles, In fact I'm somewhat mystified why the Muni is running diesel shuttles, when extra trolleybusses on the 8-Market line would cover the route. Last Fri (7 Dec) was fun: Yes the new subway was shut down that night. KLM lines were turning back on the surface tracks at 17 & Castro. J and N lines were joined together via the Y at the Mint yard, inbound cars on each line showing outbound designation for the other line.