robertj@unreal.uucp (Young Rob Jellinghaus) (11/16/90)
I just was informed I'm soon to be getting a Trailblazer for use on my good
old vanilla Mac II at home. I used to use uw, which worked OK; however, bit
rot seems to have set in and at the moment it's converting my ^S's, ^A's, and
^Q's to ^As, ^Aq and ^Ar respectively. Aaargh! Plus I'm not having much luck
at getting the keyboard map set properly; the arrow keys aren't correct.
Catching up on posts, it seems there's something called MacLayers. What is
it? PD? Is it better than uw? Does it let you capture text from a window?
Under Multifinder? Is it fast?
Are there other alternatives I should be aware of in my quest to be able to
compile in one window, edit in another, and read news in a third?
Thanks for any advice!
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MacLayers is what you want. I'm using it right now in fact. It can do everything you asked for and a little more. It has a few minor problems, but over all it is extremely robust. I believe you can get the Unix source and Macintosh binaries from either sumex or rascal.ics.utexas.edu. --Eric
ngse18@castle.ed.ac.uk (J R Evans) (11/17/90)
rosen@cs.utexas.edu (Fletcher Mattox) writes: >MacLayers is what you want. I'm using it right now in fact. It can do everything >you asked for and a little more. It has a few minor problems, but over all it >is extremely robust. >I believe you can get the Unix source and Macintosh binaries from either >sumex or rascal.ics.utexas.edu. >--Eric layers is very good, but don't neglect the older uw software, which has a couple of advantages - the Mac version includes a Tektronix emulation, and versions for other machines exist (viz, Atari ST, at least). uw is also rather better documented. I got my copy from atari.archive.umich.edu, but I'd be surprised if copies weren't available from more traditional MacArchives! It might also be worth noting that both of these systems require a bsd-derived Unix host - they require pty support. Russ Evans British Geological Survey, Edinburgh
carl@doctor.Tymnet.COM (Carl Baltrunas) (11/21/90)
In article <7203@castle.ed.ac.uk> ngse18@castle.ed.ac.uk (J R Evans) writes: >rosen@cs.utexas.edu (Fletcher Mattox) writes: > >>MacLayers is what you want. I'm using it right now in fact. It can do everything >>you asked for and a little more. It has a few minor problems, but over all it >>is extremely robust. > >>I believe you can get the Unix source and Macintosh binaries from either >>sumex or rascal.ics.utexas.edu. > >>--Eric > >layers is very good, but don't neglect the older uw software, which has a >couple of advantages > ... also rather better documented. Sumex archives have both in info-mac/unix. I've been using both to decide which is better. (about 2 weeks now) 1 wk for each app. I like the solid feel that uw has, but I don't like adm31 terminal emulation. MacLayers has only irritated me with it's vt-100 (not-quite all the features) problems. I use a lot of screen editors that think they know what a vt-100 looks like and almost every vt-100 package seems to have problems with one or more of them. Kermit seems the most stable for me. But... I've gotten used to the ability to switch windows and it's soooo much nicer to put up with all of the problems rather than to lose that. Also, does anyone know if there are any other packages in the works to support windowing with X, OpenLook, etc. ??? If anyone knows if the Mac sources to either of these are available from the authors, I'd be willing to try and fix some of the problems, add reasonable new features and correct (possible) oversights. -Carl -- Carl A Baltrunas 408/922-6206|SMTP:carl@doctor.TYMNET.COM,carl@tymix.tymnet.com BT Tymnet (Network Services) |UUCP: ...!{ames,pyramid}!oliveb!tymix!doctor!carl PO Box 49019, MS/C41 |PDP-10 support: 36-bits forever! well, awhile! San Jose, CA 95161-9019 |(insert cute Macintosh quote here)