[comp.sys.mac.comm] 'Null Modem' pinouts requested

jtt@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (James T. Tanis) (11/27/90)

I'm trying to get my ms-dos and apple machines talking. Apparently, what I
need is a 'null-modem' cable. Could some kind soul tell me what this is?
i.e - what the pin connections are supposed to be.

Thanks!
-JT

johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu (11/27/90)

In article <1990Nov26.191130.10237@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, 
jtt@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (James T. Tanis) writes...

>I'm trying to get my ms-dos and apple machines talking. Apparently, what I
>need is a 'null-modem' cable. Could some kind soul tell me what this is?
>i.e - what the pin connections are supposed to be.

The following cable recipes assume that one is connecting a Mac Plus
or later.  For more information, see Tech Notes 10 and 65 which give
the pin definitions for the RS-422 protocol.

Mac (mini-8)          PC (DB-25)
------------          ----------

1    <-------------->     6
3    <-------------->     3
4    <-------------->     7
5    <-------------->     2

This is a 'MacLink Plus' cable.
We copied this one -- it works.  (I don't think that the
1 <----> 6 connection is needed for most applications.)

Mac (mini-8)          PC (DB-25)        
------------          ----------          

3    <-------------->     3
4    <-------------->     7
5    <-------------->     2
                          6, 8, 20 jumpered together

This is a Mac to IBM-XT or Compaq Portable cable.
Source:  SoftPC manual -- Believe it or not,
this will work, too.  

For PC-AT users:

Mac (mini-8)          PC-AT (DB-9)        
------------          ------------          

3    <-------------->     2
4    <-------------->     5
5    <-------------->     3
                          1, 4, 6 jumpered together

Note that the common ingredient to the 3 cable recipes above is 
that the Mac uses pins 3, 4, and 5 (the middle three on the 
connector).  These correspond to TXD-, ground, and RXD- in the
RS-422 specifications -- TD, ground, and RD in RS-232c terminology.

Hope I got this right!  For what it's worth, on my own home-made
cables I use only the transmit, receive, and ground.  I tried 
disconnecting the handshake lines and neither computer seemed to
care.  It's always possible that some application requires them,
but I haven't found one yet.

Also, I strongly recommend buying rather than making the null
modem cable, unless you LOVE soldering to tiny mini-8 connectors
with thermoplastic housings that soften when heated.

It should be possible to buy a MacLink Plus cable.  MacLink Plus
is a product of Dataviz, Inc.  203-268-0030.

Here is one cable vendor (quoted from a posting by another
net person) which supplies raw materials:

Micro Computer Cable Co., in Romulus, Michigan, 
sells mini-din connectors,cables, switch boxes, 
crimp tools, cable, etc., at resonable prices.  
Their phone numbers are  313-941-6574 FAX, 313-941-6500 

I haven't used this vendor personally, but the quote was
from a satisfied net.customer.  Happy cabling! 

Misco (800)876-4726 and Black Box (412)746-5530 
also supply raw materials.

Bill (johnston@oscar.ccm.udel.edu)
Bill Johnston; 38 Chambers St.; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949