[comp.sys.mac.comm] kermit Mac <-> MS-Dos woes

jtt@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (James T. Tanis) (11/21/90)

I'd like to do some simple file-transfer between my MS-DOS box and my mac,
so I decided to use kermit. I've sucessfully used it between two macs
over serial lines.

But I cannot get anything to happen between a mac and PC. All the settings
(speed, parity, handshake, flow control, favorite liquor) are the same on
the two platforms, but nothing comes accross.

I have a feeling the PC kermit might be sensing lack of dtr, but don't know
how to disable this.
Or perhaps it's a bigend-littleend problem???

both machines work properly - I'm typing this from the MSDOS box....

anybody have any ideas???

Please reply via net mail.

-JT

gmoff@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Moffat) (11/22/90)

jtt@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (James T. Tanis) writes:

>I'd like to do some simple file-transfer between my MS-DOS box and my mac,
>so I decided to use kermit. I've sucessfully used it between two macs
>over serial lines.
>But I cannot get anything to happen between a mac and PC. All the settings
>(speed, parity, handshake, flow control, favorite liquor) are the same on
>the two platforms, but nothing comes accross.
>I have a feeling the PC kermit might be sensing lack of dtr, but don't know
>how to disable this.
>Or perhaps it's a bigend-littleend problem???

I have had no problems doing this with only three wires (data in/out,
ground) connecting each, with no other links on the cable. Software used was
locally written terminal emulators for both mac & pc, using kermit
transfer.
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vanavermaet@player.enet.dec.com (11/28/90)

In article <1990Nov21.133305.18366@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, jtt@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (James T. Tanis) writes...
>I'd like to do some simple file-transfer between my MS-DOS box and my mac,
>so I decided to use kermit. I've sucessfully used it between two macs
>over serial lines.
> 
>But I cannot get anything to happen between a mac and PC. All the settings
>(speed, parity, handshake, flow control, favorite liquor) are the same on
>the two platforms, but nothing comes accross.
> 
>I have a feeling the PC kermit might be sensing lack of dtr, but don't know
>how to disable this.
>Or perhaps it's a bigend-littleend problem???
Big-end/little-end is something else. 

The first step in this sort of thing, in my experience, is pin-2/pin-3: if one
machine talks on pin-2, then the other one must listen on pin-2 (and talk on
pin-3). Different machines do different things (the standard is not for
connnections between 2 machines - it is for connections between a machine and a
modem,. i.e. a DTE and a DCE).

Next, come those DTR problems. If your PC want DTR high, it is possible to give
it DTR from one of its other pins (I forget which one). This things are very
different from one PC to another (even if they are all IBM-compatible).

Regards,
Peter Van Avermaet
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jtt@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (James T. Tanis) (11/30/90)

Thanks to everyone who responded to my two queries. My Mac and PC are now
communicating happily.

Long LIve the USENET!

-JT