herbw@wiskit.pdx.com (Herb Weiner) (11/30/90)
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I'm now receiving netnews on my A/UX machine at home :-) :-) :-) :-)
Problem: My wife wants to read news on her Mac (running the standard
Mac OS) in another room. The Macs are currently connected with AppleTalk
(actually, PhoneNet). Is there any reasonable way that my wife can login
to A/UX without tearing up the walls to run additional cabling?
The only solution I am aware of would be to purchase an Ethernet card,
a foot of Ethernet cable, a Kinetics FastPath or Cayman Gatorbox, and
an additional AppleTalk connector, and contact the Guinness Book of
World Records to see if they have a category for World's Shortest
Ethernet. (Total cost: aproximately $2,000; Reasonable: NO!)
Some solutions that I've investigated that SEEM reasonable, but which
DON'T work are (1) NCSA Telnet, since the A/UX TCP/IP driver(s) refuse
to talk over AppleTalk. (2) ADSP (AppleTalk Data Stream Protocol), since
ADSP refuses to talk to A/UX programs (it will only talk to Mac programs
running under A/UX).
On the Mac OS side, I would prefer a solution based on the Apple
Communications Toolbox, but would consider using NCSA Telnet.
On either or both sides, I would consider commercial software, public
domain software, or a "roll your own" solution. (I consider myself
a proficient programmer, but I haven't done much network programming.)
I would be interested in the following input:
1. Recommendations for commercially available (or public domain)
solutions. Please include vendor and price, if known.
2. Recommendations for solving the problem myself, if necessary.
Specifically, what protocol (e.g. ADSP, TCP/IP) to use, what
pieces (e.g. development kits and manuals from APDA) I will
need, etc.
3. The level of demand for such a solution. Specifically, if you
are looking for the same thing, please let me know.
Herb Weiner (herbw@wiskit.pdx.com)bschmidt@bnr.ca (Ben Schmidt) (11/30/90)
In article <1990Nov30.023317.6385@wiskit.pdx.com> herbw@wiskit.pdx.com (Herb Weiner) writes: > I'm now receiving netnews on my A/UX machine at home :-) :-) :-) :-) > > Problem: My wife wants to read news on her Mac (running the standard > Mac OS) in another room. The Macs are currently connected with AppleTalk > (actually, PhoneNet). Is there any reasonable way that my wife can login > to A/UX without tearing up the walls to run additional cabling? > > The only solution I am aware of would be to purchase an Ethernet card, > a foot of Ethernet cable, a Kinetics FastPath or Cayman Gatorbox, and > an additional AppleTalk connector, and contact the Guinness Book of > World Records to see if they have a category for World's Shortest > Ethernet. (Total cost: aproximately $2,000; Reasonable: NO!) (Agree that Ethernet can be expensive if you can't get your hands on an old 2 port transceiver someone doesn't need, but you don't need an Ethernet card *and* a FastPath, it's an Ethernet card *or* a FastPath. :^) > Some solutions that I've investigated that SEEM reasonable, but which > DON'T work are (1) NCSA Telnet, since the A/UX TCP/IP driver(s) refuse > to talk over AppleTalk. (2) ADSP (AppleTalk Data Stream Protocol), since > ADSP refuses to talk to A/UX programs (it will only talk to Mac programs > running under A/UX). > > On the Mac OS side, I would prefer a solution based on the Apple > Communications Toolbox, but would consider using NCSA Telnet. > > On either or both sides, I would consider commercial software, public > domain software, or a "roll your own" solution. (I consider myself > a proficient programmer, but I haven't done much network programming.) > > I would be interested in the following input: > > 1. Recommendations for commercially available (or public domain) > solutions. Please include vendor and price, if known. > > 2. Recommendations for solving the problem myself, if necessary. > Specifically, what protocol (e.g. ADSP, TCP/IP) to use, what > pieces (e.g. development kits and manuals from APDA) I will > need, etc. > > 3. The level of demand for such a solution. Specifically, if you > are looking for the same thing, please let me know. > > Herb Weiner (herbw@wiskit.pdx.com) How about just hanging your wife's mac off the A/UX serial port and letting her run any async terminal emulator to login to A/UX as a terminal and fire up whatever newsreader you use? Are both your A/UX Mac's serial ports in use now (e.g. for your newsfeed and printer)? Can you do without one of them (courtesy of an A-B box while she's reading news?). regards, Ben Schmidt Bell-Northern Research, Ltd. Ph: (613) 763-3906 Information P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:(613) 763-3283 Technology Ottawa Canada K1Y 4H7 bschmidt@bnr.ca
bschmidt@bnr.ca (Ben Schmidt) (11/30/90)
In article <1990Nov30.125059.2013@bwdls61.bnr.ca> bschmidt@bnr.ca (Ben Schmidt) writes: > (Agree that Ethernet can be expensive if you can't get your hands on an > old 2 port transceiver someone doesn't need, but you don't need an > Ethernet card *and* a FastPath, it's an Ethernet card *or* a FastPath. :^) What an IP/UNIX bigot I am! I *assumed* your A/UX box would *of course* have an ethernet card like any other UNIX workstation. Mea Culpa. (But how about my other idea of just hanging your LocalTalk mac off the A/UX machine as a serially-connected terminal. :^) Ben Schmidt Bell-Northern Research, Ltd. Ph: (613) 763-3906 Information P.O. Box 3511, Station C FAX:(613) 763-3283 Technology Ottawa Canada K1Y 4H7 bschmidt@bnr.ca
kdb@macaw.intercon.com (Kurt Baumann) (12/04/90)
In article <1990Nov30.125059.2013@bwdls61.bnr.ca>, bschmidt@bnr.ca (Ben Schmidt) writes: > How about just hanging your wife's mac off the A/UX serial port and > letting her run any async terminal emulator to login to A/UX as a terminal > and fire up whatever newsreader you use? Are both your A/UX Mac's serial > ports in use now (e.g. for your newsfeed and printer)? Can you do without one of them (courtesy of an A-B box while she's reading news?). regards, You could also connect into the A/UX box using SLIP over your serial line. Course you would have to find a SLIP implementation of NCSA or purchase TCP/Connect II, which would also give you a niffty UI for reading news, mail, etc... Just an idea. -- Kurt Baumann InterCon Systems Corporation 703.709.9890 Creators of fine TCP/IP products 703.709.9896 FAX for the Macintosh.