carl@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Carl Baltrunas) (12/11/90)
Ok.. here's the problem: I've been running 6.0.5, multifinder 6.1b9, colorFinder, colorDesk, and various other inits for some time with no major problems. I've had an old version of the Comm-Toolbox basic set... again all with no major problems. My 160M (actually 179M Cirrus) hard drive is partitioned with Silverlining and has 4 large partitions [40M] and 3 small ones [3M], named bashful, doc, dopey, grumpy, happy, sleepy and sneezy. (Can you name all 7 dwarves without looking?) Anyway, I recently installed the new Comm-Toolbox 1.0 release using the installer and tried uploading a few files using the xmodem tool. The first file appeared in my directory, but the comm program I was using sets the creator but not the file type when doing a non-text transfer, so I go to change the finder attributes and none of the file tools I own could find the file. I tried copying the file, and the name went along with a document icon but it was a 0 byte file. THEN THE STRANGENESS STARTED HAPPENNING. I tried to do anything to the file (even change it's name) and I got a finder error (Sorry I don't have it written down) then the icon and all traces of the file just disappeared. I tried it with another upload. Same thing happenned. I rebooted and some other craziness was happenning, where I kept getting the infamous message: "out of finder memory" I checked the finder and every copy of finder I had on any partition and all had their memory require box set to 320 or 360K. I next ran silverlining to see if there was any disk-check it could perform to see what was going wrong. THIS WAS MY SECOND MISTAKE!!! Everything looked OK from a partition viewpoint but the selection mechanism under optimize does a cursory volume check and came back with problems on two of my partitions, bashful and grumpy. (Also note: these were the partitions that I tried uploading files to, and also the two partitions with a full-blown system w/comm-toolbox, etc installed.) I rebooted and then tried rebuilding the desktop files on all partitions. This worked great. :-( bashful OK, doc OK, dopey OK, grumpy... bashful OK, doc OK, dopey OK, bashful OK, doc OK, .... I rebooted and let the system come up by itself, and it showed the disk icons as it finished mounting bashful, doc, dopey, bashful, doc, dopey, ... Ok, now boot my backup 6.0.5 floppy with silverlining and fastbackII on it... and use silverlining to un-mount or mount the offending partition "grumpy". It un-mounts ok. Now when I try to mount it, I get "not enough finder memory to handle grumpy", and I cannot mount it. I try rebooting and end up with a 6.0.3 system I had on doc:works:startupdisk:systemfolder instead of the system in bashful:systemfolder. Now nothing I try to do to mount either grumpy or bashful works. I'M GETTING WORRIED!!! I try changing the startup disk. Would you believe "out of finder memory, cannot open finder startup"? I try the Startup-device cdev under the control panel. It lets me select a new startup disk from the mounted partitions. But when I exit, I get the blasted "out of finder memory, cannot open finder startup". What this means is I can boot from a floppy or from doc, but can't change the startup device. NOW I'M PANICKING! I go to my backup 6.0.5 system tools floppy and install a full MacIIx system onto doc. I separate the finder and system files in the works folder. I increase the finder memory from 160 to 360K. I can boot from any of the 6.0.5 disks but still cannot mount my system partitions. I try the backup disk with silverlining and I was finally able to get bashful mounted. Ok! I run fastbackII and make a backup of the 40M partition, bashful, and as it was then 5:30am I went to sleep. With backup in hand, I re-initialize the bashful partition, and restore the 30 floppy backup to disk. I reboot and the system comes up. Bashful is ok to mount. ONLY, ... NOW NONE OF MY INITS WORK. NONE. I see the CTB icon and another icon [I forget what from]. I open the control panel and we see the standard few from apple, but NONE OF MY CDEV's SHOW UP. The files are all in the system folder. The folder appears to be "blessed" by the system sicn on the front. Do I have a system-folder from H*LL? I've re-installed 6.0.5 with the installer. Still no CDEVs or INITS. I've copied the 6.0.7 system/finder/etc from my CTB 1.0 installer disk and then installed the CTB on it. Reboot.... still no INITs or CDEVs. Also, I'm getting this $%&*%*&*()& message "out of finder memory" when I try to do things in the control panel. HELP!!!!!!!! I don't really want to have to back up *ALL* of the partitions and then reformat re-init the entire drive just to get my partitions back... but... There has GOT TO BE a reason why I keep getting "out of finder memory" on everything. Even if not for everything... are there any PD disk tools that I can upload (with KERMIT, I know that works! I'm using it to type this.) from the internet (ftp-able or mail-able to me, binhexed, etc.) that will let me remount the partition... -Carl Sorry for the bandwidth [long message] but the internet is my best resource at this time. Ask a dealer :-) :-) ;-) :-) Ha! Help? -- Carl A Baltrunas 408/922-6206|SMTP:carl@doctor.TYMNET.COM,carl@tymix.tymnet.com BT Tymnet (Network Services) |UUCP: ...!{ames,pyramid}!oliveb!tymix!doctor!carl PO Box 49019, MS/C41 |PDP-10 support: 36-bits forever! well, awhile! San Jose, CA 95161-9019 |(insert cute Macintosh quote here)