calvin@portia.Stanford.EDU (Dukhyung Chang) (12/06/90)
Hello Netters, The other day I saw a computer with a program called MacX. I thought that MacX was the X windows server that you ran if you were fortunate enough to be running AUX on a fast machine. Was I wrong? Can you you run it seperately, and then use your Mac as an X terminal? E-Mail or Post Peter Chang calvin@portia.stanford.edu -- Peter Chang "Check me. Am I losing my mind?" E-Mail: calvin@portia.stanford.edu Nigel
han@Apple.COM (Byron Han) (12/06/90)
In article <1990Dec5.191437.11335@portia.Stanford.EDU> calvin@portia.Stanford.EDU (Dukhyung Chang) writes: >Hello Netters, > > The other day I saw a computer with a program called MacX. I >thought that MacX was the X windows server that you ran if you were fortunate >enough to be running AUX on a fast machine. Was I wrong? Can you you >run it seperately, and then use your Mac as an X terminal? > MacX is a product that runs under both A/UX and Macintosh OS. It implements X11r3 (I think - I am quoting from memory) and requires a minimum of 2 megabytes of memory (I think - IAQFM). It works over a variety of transport protocols, relying on the Connection Manager part of the Communications Toolbox for data connectivity. Hope this helps. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Byron Han, Software Artist "1984 wasn't like 1984..." Apple Computer, Inc. ----------------------------------------- 20525 Mariani Ave, MS: 35CP Internet: han@apple.COM Cupertino, CA 95014 UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!han ATTnet: 408-974-6450 Applelink:HAN1 HAN1@applelink.apple.COM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) (12/07/90)
In article <1990Dec5.191437.11335@portia.Stanford.EDU> calvin@portia.Stanford.EDU (Dukhyung Chang) writes: > The other day I saw a computer with a program called MacX. I > thought that MacX was the X windows server that you ran if you were fortunate > enough to be running AUX on a fast machine. Was I wrong? Can you you > run it seperately, and then use your Mac as an X terminal? MacX runs under both A/UX and MacOS. So, yes, you can use your Mac as an X terminal (provided you have enough memory, etc.). Keep in mind that people writing X clients often assume that everyone using X has a 19" monitor - the windows they design are often bigger than even than the typical 640x480 Mac monitor. (Note that MacX allows you to create a virtual screen larger than 640x480, but scrolling it around is not convenient.) Herb Poppe hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu NCAR (303) 497-1296 1850 Table Mesa Dr. Boulder, CO 80307-3000
jln@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Norstad) (12/07/90)
MacX is Apple's X Window server for the Mac. There are two versions - one runs under A/UX, the other runs under the regular MacOS. Both are commercial products, not freeware. University site licenses are available. John Norstad Academic Computing and Network Services Northwestern University jln@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu (David Gutierrez) (12/08/90)
In article <47142@apple.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han) writes: > MacX is a product that runs under both A/UX and Macintosh OS. Is this *one* product that runs under both A/UX *and* the Macintosh OS? I have talked to Apple Software Licensing and my local rep and have been unable to get a definite answer to this question. Our price list shows a product called Apple X Window System Site License (M0747LL/A) which I would like to order, if it is the version that runs under the Mac OS. Please, someone, tell me if this is the product I want. David Gutierrez drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu "Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
mxmora@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora) (12/08/90)
In article <1668@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> jln@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Norstad) writes: >MacX is Apple's X Window server for the Mac. There are two versions - one >runs under A/UX, the other runs under the regular MacOS. Both are >commercial products, not freeware. University site licenses are >available. This is what I thought but appearently there is only one binary for MacX and it runs under either MacOS or AUX. It requires MacTCP and Comm toolbox to run under MacOS. >John Norstad -- ___________________________________________________________ Matthew Mora | my Mac Matt_Mora@sri.com SRI International | my unix mxmora@unix.sri.com ___________________________________________________________
hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) (12/08/90)
In article <4439@lib.tmc.edu> drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu (David Gutierrez) writes: > Is this *one* product that runs under both A/UX *and* the Macintosh OS? I > have talked to Apple Software Licensing and my local rep and have been > unable to get a definite answer to this question. Our price list shows a > product called Apple X Window System Site License (M0747LL/A) which I > would like to order, if it is the version that runs under the Mac OS. > Please, someone, tell me if this is the product I want. M0747LL/A is only a license, no software or manuals are included. You have to purchase one copy of either of the products that the license covers, then you can make copies of the software (but not the manuals) for distribution at your site. The two products are: Apple MacX (M0108LL/A) (this is a package that contains only MacX/MacTCP/CommToolBox for users who want to only run under MacOS) X Window System for A/UX (M0411LL/A) (this is the full X Window package for A/UX and includes MacX - I have heard that this does not contain the Comm ToolBox Manager which is required to run under the MacOS - I don't have this package, I couldn't say whether or not the MacX included will run under the MacOS.) I received the following mail from Software Licensing: MacX is the product for the MacOS. X Window System is for A/UX. Both products are covered by the same license agreement, entitled: MacX and X Window System for A/UX Site License Agreement. The suggested retail price for the product is $295. The finished good product must be purchased before the site license can be obtained. To obtain the Agreement, you need to contact your Apple Rep. or an authorized Apple dealer; they will pull the Agreement down from AppleLink and will give you the site license price. You need to send the completed Agreement and a P.O. to Apple. In turn, we send you an executed copy of the Agreement and forward the P.O. to the appropriate Support Center for invoicing. The site license part number is M0747, and it covers both MacX and X Window System for A/UX. The product is not included in the price of the site license; the finished product must be purchased separately (the product contains the software and documentation). The site license allows the licensee to make unlimited copies of both products and to distribute and use these copies at a defined site. Licensee can not copy the manuals. Unfortunately, at this time, MacX manuals can not be purchased separately; however, we are working on making them available for purchase in packs of five. If you have any further questions, you may contact Cynthia Yamagata (YAMAGATA.C). Sincerely, Software Licensing Herb Poppe hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu NCAR (303) 497-1296 1850 Table Mesa Dr. Boulder, CO 80307-3000
han@Apple.COM (Byron Han) (12/08/90)
In article <4439@lib.tmc.edu> drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu (David Gutierrez) writes: >In article <47142@apple.Apple.COM> han@Apple.COM (Byron Han) writes: >> MacX is a product that runs under both A/UX and Macintosh OS. > >Is this *one* product that runs under both A/UX *and* the Macintosh OS? Yes. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Byron Han, Software Artist "1984 wasn't like 1984..." Apple Computer, Inc. ----------------------------------------- 20525 Mariani Ave, MS: 35CP Internet: han@apple.COM Cupertino, CA 95014 UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!han ATTnet: 408-974-6450 Applelink:HAN1 HAN1@applelink.apple.COM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
han@Apple.COM (Byron Han) (12/08/90)
In article <9452@ncar.ucar.edu> hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe) writes: > >I have heard that this does not contain the >Comm ToolBox Manager which is required to run under the MacOS - I don't >have this package, I couldn't say whether or not the MacX included will >run under the MacOS.) A/UX 2.0 ships with the CommToolbox managers already built it. The same MacX binary will run under both A/UX 2.0 and Mac/OS. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Byron Han, Software Artist "1984 wasn't like 1984..." Apple Computer, Inc. ----------------------------------------- 20525 Mariani Ave, MS: 35CP Internet: han@apple.COM Cupertino, CA 95014 UUCP:{sun,voder,nsc,decwrl}!apple!han ATTnet: 408-974-6450 Applelink:HAN1 HAN1@applelink.apple.COM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu (David Gutierrez) (12/08/90)
Here's a portion of a response I got from Tom Dowdy at Apple about MacX. --------------------------- From: dowdy@apple.com (Tom Dowdy) To: drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu Subject: Re: What is MacX? Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. MacX and MacX for A/UX BOTH use the SAME MacX binary. The differences are in a) packaging/manuals b) MacX for A/UX doesn't include MacTCP because you don't need it. I think that's about it. --------------------------- David Gutierrez drg@mdaali.cancer.utexas.edu "Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
gcarter@globey.cs.wisc.edu (Gregory Carter) (12/15/90)
Mac X sounds fascinating, can you use a modem with it to connect to a site? Or is it only over TCP/IP connector??? --Gregory Whats the speed like on a 16 Mhz 68000 machine, mac portable??? PS: Anybody know how much this costs?