ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) (12/19/90)
I would like to contact some representative of AOL by e-mail. Can I send an e-mail from InterNet? -- ========================================================================== Masato Ogawa Sony corp. ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp Tokyo, Japan ==========================================================================
andyb@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca (Andy Babinszki) (12/20/90)
In article <OGAWA.90Dec19205951@actor.sm.sony.co.jp>, ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) writes: > > I would like to contact some representative of AOL by e-mail. Can I > send an e-mail from InterNet? > While we're at it how 'bout getting mail into _and_ out of Delphi, GEnie and MCIMail? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Babinszki - andyb@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca
ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) (12/20/90)
I asked: In article <OGAWA.90Dec19205951@actor.sm.sony.co.jp> ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) writes: > I would like to contact some representative of AOL by e-mail. Can I > send an e-mail from InterNet? I have several mails that there is no gateway for it. Thank you ! -- ========================================================================== Masato Ogawa Sony corp. ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp Tokyo, Japan ==========================================================================
xdab@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Baird) (12/20/90)
In article <1CE00001.beyexu@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca> andyb@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca writes: > >In article <OGAWA.90Dec19205951@actor.sm.sony.co.jp>, ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) writes: >> >> I would like to contact some representative of AOL by e-mail. Can I >> send an e-mail from InterNet? >> > >While we're at it how 'bout getting mail into _and_ out of Delphi, GEnie >and MCIMail? > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Andy Babinszki - andyb@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca I grabbed this from the net a while back. I believe that many will still find it useful. The original was compiled by Jeff Wasilko. From tank!ncar!mailrus!wuarchive!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!netcom!wasilko Tue Sep 12 08:35:23 CDT 1989 Article 19802 of comp.sys.mac: Path: tank!ncar!mailrus!wuarchive!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!netcom!wasilko >From: wasilko@netcom.UUCP (Jeff Wasilko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Access to Compuserve Message-ID: <2325@netcom.UUCP> Date: 12 Sep 89 10:04:58 GMT References: <2360@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> Reply-To: wasilko@netcom.UUCP (Jeff Wasilko) Distribution: na Organization: NetCom- The Bay Area's Public Access Unix System {408 997-9175 guest} Lines: 248 In article <2360@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> paul@ucsfccb.UUCP (Paul Green) writes: >I read recently that it is now possible to send mail to >an account on Compuserve from Internet (and visa versa?). >However, I did not write down the infomation. I would be >very grateful if someone could send me the info. >Thank you. The folloing information is from comp.dcom.telecom newsgroup. It covers a bit more than the compuserve-internet link, but other people may be interested in it. Jeff Wasilko wasilko@netcom -------------------- Path: netcom!apple!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!swbatl!texbell!vector!telecom-gateway >From: gb7%prism@gatech.edu (Joe Bradley) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Compuserve and the Internet Message-ID: <telecom-v09i0324m08@vector.dallas.tx.us> Date: 24 Aug 89 19:38:20 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Lines: 22 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 324, message 8 of 9 In article <telecom-v09i0305m03@vector.dallas.tx.us> ken@cup.portal.com writes: >For those that use or know someone on Compuserve, it is now >possible to mail to or from the Internet and CIS. The procedure >is pretty straight forward, but I don't have it handy now. If >anyone is interested, let me know and I will mail a copy. >[Moderator's Note: ... the addressing scheme is '7xxxx.xxx@compuserve.com' >and it is quite reliable. The first part is simply the CI$ user ID number >separated with a dot in the middle. I send copies of the Digest to a couple >people on CI$ now who prefer to receive it in their mailbox there, although >no re-distribution of the Digest is permitted at that site. PT] Does anyone know if there is a direct connection to Compuserve from the Internet? It would save a lot of money and time if you could telnet directly in. At least 50% of my time on-line is spent waiting for stuff to print to the screen at 2400 baud. G.J. (Joe) Bradley, Georgia Tech Research Institute, Atlanta, Georgia, 30332 UUCP: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!gb7 INTERNET: gb7@prism.gatech.edu Path: netcom!apple!sun-barr!newstop!texsun!pollux!attctc!vector!telecom-gateway >From: langz@asylum.sf.ca.us (Lang Zerner) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Internet Gateways to Commercial Networks Message-ID: <telecom-v09i0347m02@vector.dallas.tx.us> Date: 4 Sep 89 15:48:08 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Reply-To: langz@asylum.UUCP (Lang Zerner) Organization: The Great Escape, Inc Lines: 33 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 347, message 2 of 9 In past postings to the Digest, I recall there has been mention of addressing syntax for sending mail to users of various commercial info services such as Compuserve. Naturally, I didn't bother jotting them down, holding the anive belief, I suppose, that I wouldn't need them. Of course, it turns out I now *do* have a use for them, so I wonder if Patrick or some other kind soul would be willing to post a summary. To satisfy an utterly idle curiosity, I would be interested to know what gateway software and hardware is behind the addressing syntaxes (syntaces?) as well. -- Be seeing you... --Lang Zerner langz@asylum.sf.ca.us UUCP:bionet!asylum!langz ARPA:langz@athena.mit.edu "...and every morning we had to go and LICK the road clean with our TONGUES!" [Moderator's Note: They are getting easier to use all the time. In years past, the addressing schemes were pretty convoluted, but now, it is quite simple, at least to get from *here* to *them*, if not necessarily the other way around. A few examples I use frequently: attmail!username@att.com mailbox.number@mci.com 7xxxxx.yyy@compuserve.com first.last@zone.net.node.fidonet.org Going to Fido, 'fidonet.org' causes the mail to route to the assigned gateway or the default gateway, based on the node and net. To write us, Fido people address their mail to username: uucp; at one of the gateway addresses. The first line of text MUST say: "To: username@site.domain" and the second line of text MUST be blank. As for AT&T, MCI and Compuserve, maybe someone from those places reading the Digest can send along the methodology involved in getting mail to the Internet. PT] Path: netcom!apple!sun-barr!texsun!texbell!vector!telecom-gateway >From: laba-2ac%web-2a.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Internet Gateways to Commercial Networks Message-ID: <telecom-v09i0352m03@vector.dallas.tx.us> Date: 6 Sep 89 00:17:12 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Reply-To: <laba-2ac%web-2a.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.berkeley.edu> Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 63 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 352, message 3 of 7 In article <telecom-v09i0347m02@vector.dallas.tx.us> langz@asylum.UUCP (Lang Zerner) writes: >[Moderator's Note: They are getting easier to use all the time. In years >past, the addressing schemes were pretty convoluted, but now, it is quite >simple, at least to get from *here* to *them*, if not necessarily the other >way around. [...] > mailbox.number@mci.com MCI Mail boxes are arranged as phone numbers, like 367-9829 (my old box). To address a MCI mail box, you can use that number exactly, with the dash, or without the dash (3679829). MCI Mail sends to Internet the mailbox number without the dash, and 2 zero's prefixed ("003679829@mcimail.com" is what it would look like from MCI Mail). >................... As for AT&T, MCI and Compuserve, maybe someone from >those places reading the Digest can send along the methodology involved >in getting mail to the Internet. PT] In MCI Mail, at the "Command:" prompt, type "CR" (for create letter). At the "To:" prompt, type the name of the person you are sending to, followed by "(EMS)" (with the paretheses (sp?)), like so: To: Joe Blow (ems) Then, it will ask for the EMS system, type "Internet", like so: EMS: Internet Then, it will ask for the MBX (mailbox) of the person, you type the internet address at this point: MBX: ranma@cup.portal.com MCI Mail does NOT have a smart mailer. So, if you mail to UUCP, Bitnet, etc, you have to use the gateways to get there, like so: MBX: bougus!address!ranma@uunet.uu.net <or> MBX: ranma%address.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (this assumes the machine "address" is in the published UUCP maps). MCI Mail polls NRI (their mail gateway) every 30 minutes. In MCI Mail, you can send to a person by their name, but that is an interactive session where if there was more than one match, you get to pick the right person on MCI Mail. Mail from the Internet, you can't do that, so you must know the MCI Mailbox number of that person. The MCI Mail recepient does not see the Internet routing headers when they recieve mail. The Internet mail can be directly "REplied" to in MCI Mail. Your Internet address can be part of a "list" on someones MCI Mail acct (alaiases). MCI Mail will send a message to the originator (on MCI Mail) if the message has not been delivered (because of TCP foul-ups, host down, etc.) It will keep trying for 3 days, the it will return the message as undeliverable. On Lotus Express, when you create a letter, at the To: prompt, hit "F9" to expand the address, the fill the "EMS" and "MBX" prompts like usual. Hope this helps. Robert Gutierrez <ranma@cup.portal.com> from a borrowed account. ****IF YOU REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT, make the Subject: "c/o Ranma"**** Na Choon Piaw P.O Box, 4067, Berkeley, CA 94704-0067 laba-2ac@web.berkeley.edu Disclaimer: I'm speaking only for myself! Path: netcom!apple!sun-barr!texsun!texbell!vector!telecom-gateway >From: johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us (John R. Levine) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Internet Gateways to Commercial Networks Message-ID: <telecom-v09i0352m04@vector.dallas.tx.us> Date: 5 Sep 89 20:17:12 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Reply-To: johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us Organization: Segue Software, Cambridge MA Lines: 27 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 352, message 4 of 7 >As for AT&T, MCI and Compuserve, maybe someone from >those places reading the Digest can send along the methodology involved >in getting mail to the Internet. Sending mail from MCI Mail to the Internet works the same way as from MCI mail to any other network to which they have a gateway. You give the "EMS" option after the recipient's address, then the network name "Internet" and for the mailbox address, the Internet address of the recipient. The gateway is very well implemented and does a good job of preserving mail addresses so you can respond to them smoothly. When sending into MCI Mail, the mailbox number is written with no punctuation, so my address there is 0001037498@mci.com. I have seen no documentation for this gateway, but since at the moment messages pass both ways for free (not even the usual MCI Mail message charge) I can hardly complain. >From Compuserve, you give an address like ">INTERNET: user@site.domain" on the address line. HELP INTERNET gives more info. Inbound, the two parts of the Compuserve user number are separated by a dot, rather than the usual comma. I don't use AT&T Mail, but my understanding is that it acts somewhat like a very large uucp site, and regular uucp bang syntax should work. -- John R. Levine, Segue Software, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 492 3869 johnl@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us, {ima|lotus}!esegue!johnl, Levine@YALE.edu Massachusetts has 64 licensed drivers who are over 100 years old. -The Globe Path: netcom!apple!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!usc!ucsd!ames!sun-barr!texsun!texbell!vector!telecom-gateway >From: 76703.407@compuserve.com (HamNet) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Internet Gateways to Commercial Networks Message-ID: <telecom-v09i0356m03@vector.dallas.tx.us> Date: 5 Sep 89 14:49:43 GMT Sender: news@vector.Dallas.TX.US Lines: 14 Approved: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@vector.dallas.tx.us X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 356, message 3 of 6 Using the new EasyPlex -> Internet bridge is very easy requiring that the addressee be supplied as follows: >internet:user@domain That's all there is to it. From MCI Mail to Internet, the procedure involves specifying: TO: Username (EMS) EMS: Internet MBX: user@domain Scott Loftesness 76703.407@COMPUSERVE.COM (SysOp of the HamNet Amateur Radio/SWL Forum) -- Jeff Wasilko wasilko@netcom.uucp uunet!apple!netcom!wasilko -- X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X X David Baird xdab@midway.uchicago.edu X X University of Chicago d-baird@uchicago.edu X X University Computing Organizations (312) 702-7161 X
daven@svc.portal.com (12/21/90)
In article <OGAWA.90Dec19205951@actor.sm.sony.co.jp> ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) writes: > > I would like to contact some representative of AOL by e-mail. Can I >send an e-mail from InterNet? > Nope, there are many things I like about AOL, but this is not one of them. They seem to believe in closed worlds. The parent company "Quantum" (not related to the drive manufacture) runs 3 other online services, and as far as I can tell they are all closed Email systems. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Newman | daven@svc.portal.com | AppleLink: D0025 Sofware Ventures Corp. | AOL: MicroPhone | CIS: 76004,2161 Berkeley, CA 94705 | WELL: tinman@well.sf.ca.us | (415) 644-3232
ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) (12/21/90)
In article <1990Dec20.012249.20876@midway.uchicago.edu> xdab@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Baird) writes: > In article <1CE00001.beyexu@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca> andyb@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca writes: > >While we're at it how 'bout getting mail into _and_ out of Delphi, GEnie > >and MCIMail? > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Andy Babinszki - andyb@tardis.wimsey.bc.ca > > > > > > I grabbed this from the net a while back. I believe that many > will still find it useful. The original was compiled by Jeff Wasilko. ah, I see. Sorry I don't understand Andy's english because I'm not good at English. For exchanging e-mail between networks, the information is being posted in comp.mail.misc & news.newusers.questions by John J. Chew. I may miss recent posting, but I have the version of January '90. At first I looked for that list and checked the latest posting in my spool. So I cross-posted this question in comp.sys.mac.comm AND comp.mail.misc. In the list, Genie and Delfi are not mentioned. So I think there are no way to exchange e-mail with them. So If you want this list, you had better ask in comp.mail.misc or look into your spool.
jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) (12/21/90)
In article <1990Dec20.213436.12706@svc.portal.com> daven@svc.portal.com writes: [concerning email gateways in and out of America Online] >Nope, there are many things I like about AOL, but this is not one of them. >They seem to believe in closed worlds. The parent company "Quantum" (not >related to the drive manufacture) runs 3 other online services, and as >far as I can tell they are all closed Email systems. I recently received a note from AOL management that indicated they were either considering, or had solid plans for, an email gateway to the outside world. It looks like this feature may be coming soon. I urge AOL subscribers who would be interested in this capability to make their wishes known to AOL customer service. -- ========= jeanne a. e. devoto ======================================== jdevoto@apple.com | You may not distribute this article under a jdevoto@well.sf.ca.us | compilation copyright without my permission. ______________________________________________________________________ Apple Computer and I are not authorized | CI$: 72411,165 to speak for each other. |
daven@svc.portal.com (12/22/90)
In article <47535@apple.Apple.COM> jdevoto@Apple.COM (Jeanne A. E. DeVoto) writes: >I recently received a note from AOL management that indicated they were >either considering, or had solid plans for, an email gateway to the outside >world. It looks like this feature may be coming soon. > >I urge AOL subscribers who would be interested in this capability to >make their wishes known to AOL customer service. I know that they've been taking a bit of heat about it on AOL, both in the public forums, and in the sysop only forums as well. Odd that they haven't mentioned anything to the sysops about the gateway, that or I missed the post, which is highly likely. Thanks for the news! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Newman | daven@svc.portal.com | AppleLink: D0025 Sofware Ventures Corp. | AOL: MicroPhone | CIS: 76004,2161 Berkeley, CA 94705 | WELL: tinman@well.sf.ca.us | (415) 644-3232