[comp.sys.mac.comm] 2400 Baud V.42bis modem

sie6@quads.uchicago.edu (scott alexander siege) (02/28/91)

I am planning to buy a 2400 baud modem. I have seen a review of several modems 
in MacUser. The Zoom 2400 baud V.42bis modem seems to be the very best value.
The V.42 modems were the absolutely fastest modems when connected to another
V.42 modem. However, all of this MNP and V.42 stuff is useless unless the other
end support this stuff. So, this is my question: How many services support 
these protocols? Does compuserve support them? Does it cost extra? How about 
the dial-in lines at Universities etc. (Like the U. of Chicago.)?

Is it just wasting money to buy a $179 V.42 modem when a $99 2400 baud modem is
available?  (Please don't suggest I buy a 9600 baud modem unless you know of
one in the same price range.)

Thanks,     Scott

a38856b@puukko.hut.fi (Petri Aukia) (03/02/91)

Scott> I am planning to buy a 2400 baud modem. I have seen a review of
Scott> several modems in MacUser. The Zoom 2400 baud V.42bis modem
Scott> seems to be the very best value. The V.42 modems were the
Scott> absolutely fastest modems when connected to another V.42 modem.
Scott> However, all of this MNP and V.42 stuff is useless unless the
Scott> other end support this stuff. So, this is my question: How many
Scott> services support these protocols? Does compuserve support them?
Scott> Does it cost extra? How about the dial-in lines at Universities
Scott> etc. (Like the U. of Chicago.)? 
Scott> 
Scott> Is it just wasting money to buy a $179 V.42 modem when a $99
Scott> 2400 baud modem is available? (Please don't suggest I buy a 9600
Scott> baud modem unless you know of one in the same price range.) 
Scott> 
Scott> Thanks, Scott

	Don't, and I repeat, Don't even consider buying the Zoom V42. I thought
that it would be a good deal, but now $35 poorer from trans-Atlantic phone-
calls, I don't recomend dealing with MacProduts U.S.A. Their latest explanation
is that they won't get any before the end of april. This was after waiting
for over a month to get the modem. MacP U.S.A. doesn't answer their phones, and they don't reply to messages in their answering machines. Besides, you need to
buy a separate modem cable (hardware handshaking) that costs $17 from MacP 
U.S.A. 

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I   a38856b@Puukko.hut.fi [ Petri Aukia]

boomer@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Rich Akerboom) (03/03/91)

In <1991Mar1.162259.21075@santra.uucp> a38856b@puukko.hut.fi (Petri Aukia) writes:

>Scott> I am planning to buy a 2400 baud modem. I have seen a review of
>Scott> several modems in MacUser. The Zoom 2400 baud V.42bis modem
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>	Don't, and I repeat, Don't even consider buying the Zoom V42. I thought
>that it would be a good deal, but now $35 poorer from trans-Atlantic phone-
>calls, I don't recomend dealing with MacProduts U.S.A. Their latest explanation
>is that they won't get any before the end of april. This was after waiting
>for over a month to get the modem. MacP U.S.A. doesn't answer their phones, 
>and they don't reply to messages in their answering machines. Besides, you 
>need to buy a separate modem cable (hardware handshaking) that costs $17 from 
>MacP U.S.A. 

I have a MacProducts (Zoom manufactured) 2400 baud vanilla modem, no fax,
no v.42 etc. It has worked fine for me for about 2 years. sure, i get blasted
with random characters off and on because the line noise is bad here, but
it works ok in general. I recently called MacProducts to find out about
getting a fax upgrade. They got back to me promptly and also called back
about another problem i had later, which was when connecting to telebits,
the modem always ended up connecting at 1200 baud. they researched the problem
and suggested adding a comma or 2 after the number in the dial string so 
that the modem's autobauding started later, when the telebit had already gone
through part of its connect sequence. 

I'm not sure if this fixes the problem, but they did get back to me promptly.

rich

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>I   a38856b@Puukko.hut.fi [ Petri Aukia]

robbins@blackfin.rice.edu (Thomas Robbins) (03/03/91)

In article <1991Mar1.162259.21075@santra.uucp> a38856b@puukko.hut.fi (Petri Aukia) writes:
>Scott> I am planning to buy a 2400 baud modem. I have seen a review of
>Scott> several modems in MacUser. The Zoom 2400 baud V.42bis modem
>Scott> seems to be the very best value. The V.42 modems were the
>Scott> absolutely fastest modems when connected to another V.42 modem.
>Scott> However, all of this MNP and V.42 stuff is useless unless the
>Scott> other end support this stuff. So, this is my question: How many
>Scott> services support these protocols? Does compuserve support them?
>Scott> Does it cost extra? How about the dial-in lines at Universities
>Scott> etc. (Like the U. of Chicago.)? 
>Scott> 
>Scott> Is it just wasting money to buy a $179 V.42 modem when a $99
>Scott> 2400 baud modem is available? (Please don't suggest I buy a 9600
>Scott> baud modem unless you know of one in the same price range.) 
>Scott> 
>Scott> Thanks, Scott
>
>	Don't, and I repeat, Don't even consider buying the Zoom V42. I thought
>that it would be a good deal, but now $35 poorer from trans-Atlantic phone-
>calls, I don't recomend dealing with MacProduts U.S.A. Their latest explanation
>is that they won't get any before the end of april. This was after waiting
>for over a month to get the modem. MacP U.S.A. doesn't answer their phones, and they don't reply to messages in their answering machines. Besides, you need to
>buy a separate modem cable (hardware handshaking) that costs $17 from MacP 
>U.S.A. 
>
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>I   a38856b@Puukko.hut.fi [ Petri Aukia]

I have just received a Zoom V.42 bis modem, and have been very pleased with
the hardware, though displeased with the software. I bought it directly from
the company (Zoom Telephonics) with cables and software for $241. I was miffed
to see the modem on sale from MacLand for $199.

The company did take one month to deliver it to me, due to their order-taker
talking "Balmforth" for "Broadway" in my address. When called, they were
very helpful, and finally FedExed it to me.

The software (QuickLink II) sucks, since it crashes on my Mac IIsi. I wonder
if they will refund part of my purchase price...

Summary: Do buy the modem, from MacLand; don't buy the software.

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