drew@cup.portal.com (Andrew E Wade) (08/15/90)
[Apologies: I know this has been on the net, and I thought I saved it...] I'd like to read netnews from a mac (which, incidentally, is connected via a gatorbox and gatorshare to ethernet with news server). I think I remember reading here about two ways to do this: -hypercard stack (from Apple?) -commercial product from someone? Could some kind soul point me in the right direction? Where do I get these? Do you like them? Are there others? aTdHvAaNnKcSe (no, i didn't invent that) -Drew Wade drew@cup.portal.com drew@objy.com
owen@raven.phys.washington.edu (Russell Owen) (08/16/90)
In article <32803@cup.portal.com> drew@cup.portal.com (Andrew E Wade) writes: > I'd like to read netnews from a mac <...> > I think I remember reading here about two ways to do this: > -hypercard stack (from Apple?) > -commercial product from someone? There is a netnews hypercard stack, which I am using at this very moment. Basically quite nice, though of course a bit slow. Probably available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, though I got my copy from a local source. InterCon Systems offers a commercial product: TCP/Connect II for the Apple Macintosh. In addition to a newsreader, it comes with telnet, ftp, and mail. It uses MacTCP, but does not presently support the communications toolbox. It lists for about $500 and they offer a 30% academic discount. It's expensive, but sounds really nice. We're thinking of buying it. Does anybody have any experience with it? Russell Owen owen@raven.phys.washington.edu Astronomy Dept. FM-20 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195
chesley@goofy.apple.com (Harry Chesley) (08/16/90)
In article <32803@cup.portal.com> drew@cup.portal.com (Andrew E Wade) writes: > I think I remember reading here about two ways to do this: > -hypercard stack (from Apple?) > -commercial product from someone? > Could some kind soul point me in the right direction? > Where do I get these? > Do you like them? The netnews reader stack (which requires MacTCP and an NNTP server) is available as a part of the HyperCard MacTCP Toolkit, available from APDA or by anonymous FTP from apple.com or by download from AppleLink. Do I like it? Yeah, I'm using it now to answer this. But then I wrote it...
owen@raven.phys.washington.edu (Russell Owen) (08/16/90)
In article <32803@cup.portal.com> drew@cup.portal.com (Andrew E Wade) writes: > I'd like to read netnews from a mac (which, incidentally, is connected > via a gatorbox and gatorshare to ethernet with news server). > I think I remember reading here about two ways to do this: > -hypercard stack (from Apple?) > -commercial product from someone? There is indeed a hypercard stack. Netnews reader 1.2. It has some limitations, mostly intrinsic to hypercard -- it's slow (but quite reasonable on the faster Macs), doesn't handle gigantic (>32k) messages gracefully, and once in a great while it rejects or hangs on a reply or posting. But it has many very nice features, and most of the time is trouble-free. It's probably available via anonymous ftp from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, but I'm not sure. InterCon Systems Corp. 703-709-9890, offers a commercial product which reads news, handles mail, and has ftp and telnet. It's called TCP/Connect II, and lists for $500. We're considering buying it. Does anybody have any experience with it? It seem very expensive, but if it's well written maybe it'd be worth the cost. Some details I got by calling InterCon: they offer a 30% academic discount, the program uses MacTCP but does not yet use the communications toolbox (they're working on that). The mail software talks to a POP2 server (but they're working on POP3). The upgrade policy sounds very reasonable. Russell Owen owen@raven.phys.washington.edu Astronomy Dept. FM-20 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195
owen@raven.phys.washington.edu (Russell Owen) (08/16/90)
I'm very sorry about the duplicate posting. I thought I'd aborted the first post in time. (And the netnews hypercard stack cannot delete a message once posted, sigh.) Russell
bell@pyro.ei.dupont.com (Mike Bell) (08/16/90)
In article <6349@milton.u.washington.edu> owen@raven.phys.washington.edu (Russell Owen) writes: >In article <32803@cup.portal.com> drew@cup.portal.com (Andrew E Wade) >writes: >> I'd like to read netnews from a mac (which, incidentally, is connected >> via a gatorbox and gatorshare to ethernet with news server). >> I think I remember reading here about two ways to do this: >> -hypercard stack (from Apple?) >> -commercial product from someone? > >There is indeed a hypercard stack. Netnews reader 1.2. It has some >limitations, mostly intrinsic to hypercard -- it's slow (but quite >reasonable on the faster Macs), doesn't handle gigantic (>32k) messages >gracefully, and once in a great while it rejects or hangs on a reply or >posting. But it has many very nice features, and most of the time is >trouble-free. It's probably available via anonymous ftp from >sumex-aim.stanford.edu, but I'm not sure. > >InterCon Systems Corp. 703-709-9890, offers a commercial product which >reads news, handles mail, and has ftp and telnet. It's called TCP/Connect >II, and lists for $500. We're considering buying it. Does anybody have any >experience with it? It seem very expensive, but if it's well written maybe >it'd be worth the cost. > >Some details I got by calling InterCon: they offer a 30% academic >discount, the program uses MacTCP but does not yet use the communications >toolbox (they're working on that). The mail software talks to a POP2 >server (but they're working on POP3). The upgrade policy sounds very >reasonable. > >Russell Owen >owen@raven.phys.washington.edu >Astronomy Dept. FM-20 >University of Washington >Seattle, WA 98195 I have been using TCP/Connect II, and I am generally pleased with it. There seem to still be a few bugs in the program, but it is light years ahead of the hypercard stack based alternatives. I would definately reccommend it, but the price is a little high...... Mike Bell -- ******************************************************************************** Mike Bell Internet: mike_bell@zip.ei.dupont.com Senior Engineer CSNet: BELLMA%ERVX01@dupont.com DuPont Electronic Imaging Applelink: D2747 Core Technology Group MacBLITZ..... When you feel the need for speed.......... ******************************************************************************** --
b1y1m39@bagate.BELL-ATL.COM (Bob Esposito) (03/07/91)
Can someone tell me where I can get a copy the NetNews stack??? -- ====================================================================== Bob Esposito Voice: (215) 466-6831 Bell Atlantic Corp. FAX: (215) 466-2593 Philadelphia, Pa. E-mail: espo@BELL-ATL.COM