[comp.sys.mac.comm] Tymnet is at 2400 baud

lorner@ecst.csuchico.edu (Lance Orner) (03/13/91)

I've been watching comp.sys.mac.comm for over a month, and haven't seen and
mention of this, so I thought it'd be usefull to somebody.

To Telenet and Tyment, which are used to hook up to Compuserve and America
Online, and place like Chico is a small place, and neither have 2400 baud
access to anywhere, unlike San Francisco, which has access at any speed.

But over a year ago, I discovered that Tyment has 2400 baud usage, although
to is not document anywhere.  If you call the friendly representative, they
will kindly say that you only have 1200, although you can say that you've
used 2400.  At one point, I cornered a technical person, and he said that
Tyment is in the process of changing over, and does not formally recognize the
change yet, until the change is complete for everybody.  But, he said, if
you seem to have 2400 baud access, everything is up and running for your area,
and anybody is welcome to use it.

This was found out over a year ago, and to my knowledge, they _still_ to
not formally acknowledge the 2400, although I've been using my node at
2400 flawlessly for that year.  Do you know how much money you can save
with Compuserve at 2400 over 1200 baud?

So you have to try it to see if it works.  The America Online software
initializes itself to use Telenet first, then Tymnet if that does work.  You
have to do some switching in they customization area to fix this.

I've told a lot of people in my area about this, and have been understandably
overjoyed at the news that nobody knew, and I wonder by Tymnet doesn't 
recognize it.  But it's there, and hopefully it might work for you.

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Lance Orner  (lorner @ ecst.csuchico.edu) -------------------------------------
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allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery KB8JRR) (03/18/91)

As quoted from <1991Mar13.052414.15521@ecst.csuchico.edu> by lorner@ecst.csuchico.edu (Lance Orner):
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| I've told a lot of people in my area about this, and have been understandably
| overjoyed at the news that nobody knew, and I wonder by Tymnet doesn't 
| recognize it.  But it's there, and hopefully it might work for you.
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BT Tymnet can't change every node over that quickly; they need to do it during
low usage times, or get their big customers upset.  (We use excess capacity.
Tymnet's (and Telenet's) real moneymakers are the big corporations that use
X.25 links to ship massive amounts of data around.  Granted, the biggest ones
have direct X.25 links; but many of them depend on data coming from/going to
smaller companies that can't justify hanging X.25 hardware off their
computers.)

If they announce that they're doing this, the fear is that many corporations
will scream for them to change their (or their vendors'/customers') local
node(s) over quickly.  Which can't be done without causing even more
screaming...  So they're doing it slowly and quietly, to minimize the
aggravation to themselves and their bigger customers.  Sure, it aggravates
*us* a bit when we find out, but remember that we're not their real
moneymakers.  We just have to live with it.  (Nor do I think this is
necessarily wrong.)

++Brandon
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