[comp.sys.mac.comm] What sense has MNP5?

roh@gmdzi.gmd.de (Peter Rohleder) (04/05/91)

Recently I purchased the Teleport-ADB-Modem from Global Village. It includes
MNP 5. In the manual I read:

"Turn MNP Level 5 off if you are sending/receiving non-text documents or
applications which have been compressed using a file compression utility such 
as 'StuffIt'. The MNP Level 5 data compression algorithms do not work well on
compressed data and may degrade your file transfer performance."

Since most files which you can download from Bulletin Boards or commercial
networks are compressed it probably has no great sense to own an MNP5-Modem.

What do you think ?

Peter Rohleder

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dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (04/05/91)

In article <4470@gmdzi.gmd.de> roh@gmdzi.gmd.de (Peter Rohleder) writes:
>"Turn MNP Level 5 off if you are sending/receiving non-text documents or
>applications which have been compressed using a file compression utility such 
...
>Since most files which you can download from Bulletin Boards or commercial
>networks are compressed it probably has no great sense to own an MNP5-Modem.

If the sole use of your modem is downloading macbinary stuffed files with
[XYZ]modem, that may be true.

If you do any interactive work where you're actually looking at the screen,
you'll appreciate the error correction that MNP (4 or better) buys you,
and possibly the compression.

Kermit uses 7-bit data, right?  MNP-5 would help on such transfers.

Finally, if you ever want to use Eudora over a modem, I strongly suggest
MNP capability (4 or better).
--
Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office
Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu  UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!s-dorner

cfejm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (John Miller) (04/06/91)

In article <1991Apr5.145642.3715@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes:
>In article <4470@gmdzi.gmd.de> roh@gmdzi.gmd.de (Peter Rohleder) writes:
>>"Turn MNP Level 5 off if you are sending/receiving non-text documents or
>>applications which have been compressed using a file compression utility such 
>...
>>Since most files which you can download from Bulletin Boards or commercial
>>networks are compressed it probably has no great sense to own an MNP5-Modem.
>
>If the sole use of your modem is downloading macbinary stuffed files with
>[XYZ]modem, that may be true.
>
>If you do any interactive work where you're actually looking at the screen,
>you'll appreciate the error correction that MNP (4 or better) buys you,
>and possibly the compression.
>
>Kermit uses 7-bit data, right?  MNP-5 would help on such transfers.
>
>Finally, if you ever want to use Eudora over a modem, I strongly suggest
>MNP capability (4 or better).
>--
>Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office
>Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu  UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!s-dorner


Most (almost all?) downloads are binhexed after "stuffited." Therefore,
the caveat wouldn't affect them in this way (right?).

I regularly use the Teleport with Z-modem (using MNP5) and find that the
transfer rate is significantly higher (with no problems so far) than it
is without.

John

dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (04/08/91)

In article <1991Apr05.200231.12096@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfejm@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (John Miller) writes:
>Most (almost all?) downloads are binhexed after "stuffited." Therefore,
>the caveat wouldn't affect them in this way (right?).

The commercial services (GEnie, CompuServe, ...) don't BinHex things, they
have them in MacBinary. I dunno about the Mac BBS systems.
--
Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office
Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu  UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!s-dorner