marc@ellis.uchicago.edu (marc jacobson) (04/26/91)
Does anyone know of a mail program out there as freeware which allows Macs with ethernet access to read their mail from a unix server without leaving the Mac environment? The idea is that the user would only have to double- click on an icon, and get his/her mail without having to run NCSA Telnet or MacIP, etc. and having to know unix commands, however simple. Another application we are looking for is "ping" capability, either in conjunction with the above program, or standalone. And any other nifty kinds of utilities that we could distribute to professors who are going to soon be ethernetted and macified. Thanks. -marc
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) (04/26/91)
In article <1991Apr25.202454.18872@midway.uchicago.edu> marc@ellis.uchicago.edu (marc jacobson) writes: >Does anyone know of a mail program out there as freeware which allows Macs >with ethernet access to read their mail from a unix server without leaving >the Mac environment? Thar be scads. Freeware: Techmail (MIT; I think on mit.edu) POPmail (UMN; boombox.micro.umn.edu, maybe?) Eudora (UIUC; on ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) MacPost (somewhere in Scandanavia) Tokenware: MacMH (Stanford; they want you to pay a $100 site license; mail networking@ jessica.stanford.edu) Commercial: TCP/Connect II (InterCon; mail kurt@intercon.com) I'm sure I'm missing some. Disclaimer: I wrote Eudora. -- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.edu UUCP: uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!s-dorner
d5peteg@dtek.chalmers.se (Peter Gustafsson) (04/27/91)
In article <1991Apr25.202454.18872@midway.uchicago.edu> marc@ellis.uchicago.edu ! (marc jacobson) writes:
! >Does anyone know of a mail program out there as freeware which allows Macs
! >with ethernet access to read their mail from a unix server without leaving
! >the Mac environment?
And Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office
Internet: s-dorner@uiuc.eduThar be scads.
answers
! Freeware:
! Techmail (MIT; I think on mit.edu)
! POPmail (UMN; boombox.micro.umn.edu, maybe?)
! Eudora (UIUC; on ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
! MacPost (somewhere in Scandanavia)
! Tokenware:
! MacMH (Stanford; they want you to pay a $100 site license; mail networking@
! jessica.stanford.edu)
! Commercial:
! TCP/Connect II (InterCon; mail kurt@intercon.com)
I have tried most of these and Eudora is by far the best POP-program.
If you also want terminal (VTXXX and 3270), ftp and News in the same
program you should look at TCP/Connect (commercial).
Peter Gustafsson
Chalmers Univerity of Technology
Swedenaslakson@cs.umn.edu (Brian Aslakson) (04/28/91)
dorner@pequod.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Dorner) writes: >In article <...> marc@ellis.uchicago.edu (marc jacobson) writes: >>Does anyone know of a mail program out there as freeware which allows Macs >>with ethernet access to read their mail from a unix server without leaving >>the Mac environment? >POPmail (UMN; boombox.micro.umn.edu, maybe?) Yes. It's heinous. (ugly, slow, not the best layout, not as intuitive as it should be,...) It's a Hypercard stack, and it uses POP2. >Eudora (UIUC; on ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) Not the prettiest face, but it's a real app. (It's not as intuitive as it should be, but it's fast, and is much easier to configure) Uses POP3. In both cases, the price is right. In both cases, the manual is unusable due to the brain-dead app that they are formatted for. -- Brian Aslakson brian@cs.umn.edu (mail) aslakson@cs.umn.edu (talk) mac-admin@cs.umn.edu (Me!!)
conrad@popvax.uucp (M20400@c.nobili) (04/28/91)
In article <1991Apr25.202454.18872@midway.uchicago.edu> marc@ellis.uchicago.edu (marc jacobson) writes: > >Another application we are looking for is "ping" capability, either in >conjunction with the above program, or standalone. And any other nifty >kinds of utilities that we could distribute to professors who are going >to soon be ethernetted and macified. > I know I posted something about this some months ago, but I'll be danged if I can find a copy of what I said. It's a bit of a drag since I can only give the names of some things, without the info on where you can grab them from via ftp. There is a program called superserver someplace which you can install on one of your local unix machines. Basically it is some sort of daemon which looks for connections on a particular port from the client program which you will use to access the service(s). ANY user on the unix machine can publish any service which he or she has the priveleges to execute. Of course the service must be able to take input and produce its output in a relatively simple fashion. So, you get superserver and install it on a unix machine. You (and others) can then publish various services to the superserver process. Then anyone who can reach your machine can use client (that's the name of the desk accessory that can be gotten with superserver to connect with it) to execute one of those pub- lished services. I had installed this on a machine a while back and found it quite useful. It was nice to have all of the simple little unix things like ping and who and finger at the reach of my mouse. All of these things are often necessary, but it is quite annoying to have to fire up a telnet or tn3270 session and log in to a "real" computer just to find out if someone is logged on or if some machine is reachable from somewhere else.... I apologize for not having the location information for this software. I looked on one of my unix accounts and found this scrap of information though. It was in a file called NOTES which came with the superserver stuff. Perhaps someone can supply the ftp archive site name...? If you have questions, comments, bug reports, large amounts of excess cash, horny women, etc., send a letter to koreth@ebay.sun.com. (Please don't flame ME about this person's preferred forms of compensation....) (P.S. Does this sort of appeal actually work???) Well, I hope this helps some people. The cool thing about a superserver/client pair is that it is very general. You can execute all sorts of programs from a Mac DA. You don't have to log in to another machine first. And you have the same user interface for all the services. Many of these services would not be worth writing separate applications for. And it would be a pain in the *ss to have lots of little applications like finger and who and ping kicking around on your Mac anyway.... +---- C o n r a d C . N o b i l i ----+ | | | Harvard University | Internet: conrad@harvarda.harvard.edu | | Office for Info. Tech. | conrad@popvax.harvard.edu | | Information Services | BITNET: CONRAD AT HARVARDA | | Technical & User Services | CONRAD AT HARVSPHB | | 1730 Cambridge Street | voice: (617) 495-8554 | +---- Cambridge, MA 02138 | fax: (617) 495-0715 ----+