rrwood@contact.uucp (roy wood) (05/04/91)
Many thanks to all who responded to my question about Macintosh UUCP programs. I've summarized the replies below-- mostly, it concerns a great-sounding commercial program called uAccess, and some ported GNU stuff (public domain). Read on.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- In article <1991Apr21.141824.2484@contact.uucp> you write: | Does anyone know of a package of utilities for the Mac that handle UUCP-style | exchanges of e-mail? As well, I'm interested in a program that handles | net-news transfers and reading of net-news. Ideally, I'd like to use this | in an AppleShare lab, with all the mail & news files on the server where | every machine can access them. You might like to send some mail to info@ice.com. Ice Engineering produce an absolutely top notch commercial application called uAccess. It does uucp Mail and News. I run my site "caladan" with uAccess, and the node I'm replying on now (avalon) is a subdomain od caladan. I'd think twice if I were you about your idea of using an Appleshare server as a central storage system for news.. I'll tell you why.. I started with the same sort of idea, but let me tell you, Appleshare sucks mud when you have a few people accessing the same information, so performance is a real hit. Also, who maintains, updates and deletes the news and mail.. do you really want to be everyones houskeeper?. uAccess will let you set up the spool dirs on an Appleshare server with no problem, but speed and maintainability is a BIG pain where pain can be avoided!. The way I do it is this: I have one Mac act as a hub, this is caladan (my main domain), and as uAccess uses the Comm Toolbox you can use the ADSP tool to send mail and news over Appletalk to any other Macs on the net. So caladan spools the news and mail for the recipient host, and then they call or I call them over appletalk and deliver the news and mail to them, then let those users maintain themselves. Anyways, if you want any information or need a hand setting up your site, let me know, only too glad to help. Cheers. Stu. -- stui@avalon.uucp stui@avalon.caladan.wa.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Take a look via anonymous FTP at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the /info-mac/comm directory for the files gnuucp and uupc (sic) files... they both do uucp stuff for the mac, although I don't know if it will do all that you need...Tell how it works! 8) ----> Dipesh N. (elsmed@bu-pub.bu.edu) (navsaria@buchmf.bu.edu) (elsmed@irf1.bu.edu) (clxeqac@buacca.bu.edu) (navsaria@gnu.ai.mit.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can get much of what you're looking for: Mac/gnuucp is in the think-c archives on ics.uci.edu. It consists of a uucico-type program, plus a Hypercard stack for mail. There's no direct netnews support, but you may be able to port the news packers/unpackers to the mac without too much trouble. The source is included (as you might guess from the ...gnu...). I'd be interested in your progress -- please keep me informed! And if you can't ftp them for some reason, let me know; I can dump the distribution to a floppy and send it. =Ned Horvath= ehorvath@attmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: utdoe!ice.com!time (Tim Endres) +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message is an automated reply from uAccess, address "info@ice.com". | | You are receiving this file as a result of mailing to the info address. | | Your letter has also been placed into a queue to be read by a human. | | If you had specific questions in your letter, a reply will be forthcoming. | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ uAccess is the name of a new product from ICE Engineering. uAccess provides a complete environment for reading electronic mail and Usenet news received via UUCP. uAccess implements the UUCP communications protocol using Apple's new Communications Toolbox, allowing you to use connections such as serial, modem, AppleTalk, MacTCP, MacISDN, and MacX.25, as well as any future connection tool. uAccess also provides a builtin terminal emulator which provides vt100 emulation, among others, and file transfer capability including MacBinary XMODEM. Finally, uAccess provides a complete Macintosh interface to these services, as well as the administrative tasks that are normally prohibitive in most UUCP implementations. o UUCP . Full implementation of UUCP G protocol including both call out and call in capability. . Implmented using Apple's new Communications Toolbox for extensibility. . Allows communication using any CTB connection tool, as well as all future tools including serial, modem, AppleTalk, MacTCP, and MacISDN. . Capable of building a complete UUCP network over AppleTalk. . Provides uuxqt-like command file processing task for uucp. . Allows the copy of files Mac-to-Mac and UNIX-to-Mac using uucp. . Full implementation of cron-like background tasks, allowing calls to be scheduled any time day or night. . Includes hooks to allow uAccess to be used only as a UUCP transport, thus allowing other programs to be used for delivery and viewing. . Provides background operation, allowing you to keep using your Mac for other programs under MultiFinder or to read news and mail, while uAccess communications downloads/uploads your news and mail. . Handles most of the new UUCP "standards", such as long host names, as well as bang and domain style addressing. . Provides a complete logging facility, as well as administrative tools for managing the spool files. . Supports Telebit modems providing UUCP transfers at 1300 cps, even while running in the background. o Mail . Full implementation of UNIX electronic mail delivery mechanism. . Provides notification of incoming mail via the Apple Menu. . Provides full Macintosh style mail reader. . Provides printing with special header formating. . Provides reply and forward capability. . Provides automatic mail signature. . Allows you to forward route others' mail, as well as directly route outgoing mail with smart addressing. o News . Full implementation of unix electronic mail delivery mechanism. . Provides notification of incoming mail via the Apple Menu. . Provides full Macintosh style mail reader. . Provides printing with special header formating. . Provides followup, reply and forward capability. . Provides automatic article signature. . Many unique features found in no other news reader. . Capable of handling unbatched, batched, and compressed & batched news delivery, cutting down on communications time. . Allows the forwarding of incoming news to other hosts. . Allows the forwarding of incoming postings to other hosts. o Administration . All uucp/mail/news administration implemented using Mac interface. . Host definitions specified with dialogs, buttons, and popup menus. . Allows the definition of multiple UUCP servers, allowing you to receive news from machines other than your mail server. . All spool, mail, and news directories are user specified, allowing the use of an AppleShare server for mail in networked environments. . Provides automatic administration tasks, such as cleaning up files, checking disk space, displaying usage reports, etc. o Terminal Emulation . Implemented on Apple's CTB, making it extensible. . Currently supporting vt102, vt320, and tty emulations. . Compatible with all future CTB emulators developed. o File Transfer . Implemented on Apple's CTB, making it extensible. . Currently supporting Text, XMODEM Binary, XMODEM Text, and XMODEM MacBinary transfers. . Supports Telebit XMODEM spoofing, allowing transfers at 1450 cps! . Compatible with all future CTB transfer tools developed. o Background operation (ala Cron) . You may establish a list of tasks to be performed at specific dates and times, much like UNIX Cron. . Allows you to perform all mail and news transport and delivery while you sleep. . All background tasks are specified using Macintosh interface. o Custom scripting for special communications needs . uAccess provides a custom dialing/login script capacity to allow you to define even the most difficult dialing or login procedures (a must for certain UUCP servers, and strange modems). . Allows uAccess to connect to services via network connections (i.e. MacTCP), or other unique connections. . All custom scripting specified with a simple Macintosh interface. . Virtually 100% compatible with L.sys scripts, allowing very easy porting of dialing scripts from UNIX systems. . Additional facilities provided to allow aborting on special strings (i.e. BUSY or NO CARRIER), as well as specific timeouts for each step, as well as a timeout for the entire script. Sytstem Requirements: o Minimum Macintosh Plus with 1 Megabyte RAM Hard disk Modem capable of communicating with uucp server (or network) A UUCP host to connect with o Ideal Macintosh IIcx with 4 Megabytes RAM 80 Meg Hard disk Telebit Trailblazer or T2500 modem (or network) A UUCP host to connect with Availability: Release 1.0 of uAccess is currently shipping. uAccess is available through a number of distributors: US Customers: Griffin Software (213) 541-6414 Anterior Technologies (415) 328-5615 EggHead Software ComputerLand United Kingdom Customers: Network Analysis Ltd (+44) 203 419996 Canadian Customers: Advantage Computers ComputerLand ----------------------- For More Information ----------------------- ICE Engineering EMail time@ice.com 8840 Main Street -or- uupsi!ice.com!time Whitmore Lake, MI 48189 (313) 449 8288 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Regards to your letter <m0jV3yZ-000279C@contact.uucp>: > I'm interested in setting up a high-school Mac lab with mail/news access to > UseNet, and I hope your package is suitable. I don't suppose you offer > educational discounts, do you? :-) Oh-- we're currently running under > AppleShare on the lab, with all the good and bad that implies.... Yes, we do have educational discounts. I believe the discount is 40%. I believe running with AppleShare will work fine. tim. ------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Endres | time@ice.com ICE Engineering | uupsi!ice.com!time 8840 Main Street | Voice FAX Whitmore Lake MI. 48189 | (313) 449 8288 (313) 449 9208
]) (05/07/91)
Does anyone know whether uucp is supported in Tenon's MACHten product?
The documentation suggests that it's a reasonably-sized complement of
BSD 4.3 commands on a Mach kernel atop the Mac O/S, so uucico (et al)
*may* be in the command-set.
I'll know soon, :-)
...Kris
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[necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corp. ]gsnow@pro-freedom.cts.com (Gary Snow - System Admin) (05/10/91)
In-Reply-To: message from krs@uts.amdahl.com | |Does anyone know whether uucp is supported in Tenon's MACHten product? |The documentation suggests that it's a reasonably-sized complement of |BSD 4.3 commands on a Mach kernel atop the Mac O/S, so uucico (et al) |*may* be in the command-set. | |I'll know soon, :-) I have never heard of this product, can you send me any more info on availability, and pricing, and what exactly it does.....thanks in advance. Gary --- UUCP: ogicse!clark!pro-freedom!gsnow | Pro-Freedom: 206/253-9389 ProLine: gsnow@pro-freedom | Vancouver, Wa ARPANet: crash!pro-freedom!gsnow@nosc.mil | Apple*Van InterNet: gsnow@pro-freedom.cts.com | Vancouver Apple Users Group