[comp.sys.mac.comm] AppleShare/File protect bit

chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au (Todd Hooper) (05/08/91)

I'm trying to set the 'file protect' bits on some applications on a standard
AppleShare file server, to stop people simply dragging copies onto their own
floppy disks.

However, ResEdit 2.1 (under SSW 6.0.7) just won't let me do this - the button
is activated ok but no cross appears in the box. This is when I am logged into
the server as 'Administrator'.

Am I barking up the wrong tree here?  What do I need to do to achieve this? It
was simpler with AlisaShare, where you just run a program called ASCP!

Thanks for your help...

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rbrink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Rick Brink) (05/08/91)

From article <1991May8.134939.8041@cc.curtin.edu.au>, by chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au (Todd Hooper):
> I'm trying to set the 'file protect' bits on some applications on a standard
> AppleShare file server, to stop people simply dragging copies onto their own
> floppy disks.
> 
Am I missing something here.  AppleShare Version 2.1 lets you set folders to 
not allow copying.  Why not just keep applications in separete folders that are
so protected?  It works fine on my server.

lrm3@ellis.uchicago.edu (Lawrence Reed Miller) (05/08/91)

In article <1991May8.134939.8041@cc.curtin.edu.au> chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au (Todd Hooper) writes:
>I'm trying to set the 'file protect' bits on some applications on a standard
>AppleShare file server, to stop people simply dragging copies onto their own
>floppy disks.
>
>However, ResEdit 2.1 (under SSW 6.0.7) just won't let me do this - the button
>is activated ok but no cross appears in the box. This is when I am logged into
>the server as 'Administrator'.
>
>Am I barking up the wrong tree here?  What do I need to do to achieve this? It
>was simpler with AlisaShare, where you just run a program called ASCP!
>

To set copy protect files under AppleShare, you need to run the Administration
program.  Assuming that you installed the program when you originally set up
your AppleShare server, if your AppleShare server is up & running, just select
Administration from the Server menu on the machine running AppleShare.  Enter
your Admin key, and you will then be in the Administration program.  Select
File & Folder Info from the Folders menu, pick the file you want to copy protect
and click Get Info.  Then Click the Copy-Protected box and then Save.  Ta dah.
This is covered in the AppleShare manual (page 151, in mine, under the heading
"Copy-protecting a file").

I don't think that ResEdit will set the copy protect bit at all any more; I
think that MacTools still will.  In any event, there is no way to set the
protect bit from any machine other than the server itself (i.e. you _can't_ do
it to a remotely mounted AppleShare volume).  The Administration program is
the best way to go, though.

Note that AppleShare copy protection is not very strong; it is pretty trivial
to get around the protect bit.

Hope this helps,
Lawrence Miller

eabu111@orion.oac.uci.edu (Steven Luh) (05/10/91)

In article <1991May8.134939.8041@cc.curtin.edu.au> chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au (Todd Hooper) writes:
>I'm trying to set the 'file protect' bits on some applications on a standard
>AppleShare file server, to stop people simply dragging copies onto their own
>floppy disks.
>
>However, ResEdit 2.1 (under SSW 6.0.7) just won't let me do this - the button
>is activated ok but no cross appears in the box. This is when I am logged into
>the server as 'Administrator'.

Try the DA Disktools III.  If I remember correctly, this DA still has that bit
available for access.  FYI, if one of your patrons use DiskTools III, they can
copy just about anything they want off your drive (I've found this out at work
and it really ticks me off when people do that).

I'm hoping that when we switch to System 7, we can try to put alias of all the
applications in one folder and protect all the rest (oh, DiskTools III doesn't
seem to have access to them for some reason) and maybe that will kill that bug
or something - still untested.

Steven

chooper@cc.curtin.edu.au (Todd Hooper) (05/13/91)

In article <1991May8.134939.8041@cc.curtin.edu.au>, I wrote:

> I'm trying to set the 'file protect' bits on some applications on a standard
> AppleShare file server, to stop people simply dragging copies onto their own
> floppy disks.

Thanks to those who wrote/followed up on my posting.

You need to set copy protection from the AppleShare Admin program on the server
- there doesn't appear to be any way to do it from another machine, short of
using something like Timbuktu!

Thanks again,

Todd